Workkin' Out! - Page 31

lumberjim · 04-20-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Ah, shaddup. What can I do for hamstrings?

STREEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTCH THEM

Flint · 04-20-2010, 05:35 PM

Got that covered, stretch them every morning. I want to WORK them.

Spexxvet · 04-21-2010, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Ah, shaddup. What can I do for hamstrings?

Get a hat and some cool shorts, then you can do these

Flint · 04-21-2010, 02:01 PM

Thanks, Spexx. I will try the dumbell variations for hamstring shown here, along with some stiff-legged deadlifts.

lumberjim, I would be interested in the emails from your trainer.
I am private messaging you my gmail. Please...do not send naked pictures of your hot wife!

Shawnee123 · 04-20-2010, 04:43 PM

Try a glaze, it might hold them together.

Or, just make some kind of casserole that would require you to tear the ham into strings and chunks anyway.

lumberjim · 04-20-2010, 05:46 PM

I'm saying stretch them specifically before you do leg curls. make them longer AND stronger.

glute bridge:
http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...-baseball.html
hammy stretch:
http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...g-stretch.html

also, you can lie on your back, and get a rope looped around your foot, and stretch your leg up

and for the quad:

http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...-kneeling.html

i have a few good emails from our trainer if you want, I'll forward to whoever wants them.

Flint · 05-06-2010, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

i have a few good emails from our trainer if you want, I'll forward to whoever wants them.

Thanks, jimbo. I hardly ever check my gmail, but I logged in today specifically to look at this material. Some of these are things I actually do every morning, but many of them gave me new ideas of what I could add to my regimen. I've always been big on stretching. Thanks again.

Oh, did chest/etc. today. Machine presses, incline dumbell presses and flat bench presses. Very light weights for shoulder isolation: 5 front raises/5 side raises/5 rear laterals, repeat without resting (30 reps). I did that superset three times (90 reps total). Then rope pressdowns to finish triceps.

jinx · 04-21-2010, 02:43 PM

I like to do the things jim had illustrated here, with a ball. I put 12lb weights on my hips to make it more challenging. Doing the hip thrusts with a 16lb med ball on my hip also.

You should think about adding a ball to your equip list, you can do lots of (in)stability stuff that will work more muscles than the ones you are actually focusing on, kwim? Even just a standing on a little squishy mat while you do stuff, and/or balancing on one foot helps with this.

Oh, another thing... try leaping several feet, from one foot to the other and holding for several seconds upon landing. Repeat.

monster · 04-21-2010, 11:55 PM

Yup I need to do hamstrings for my knee pain

hang from a bar and do curls? i don't think so.....

uh-oh, lower back issues rules out 3rd ex....

Flint · 04-22-2010, 04:42 AM

You could do like Steve Reeves:
Lie on the floor face down, have someone sit on your calves, then curl your own body weight up off the floor with your hamstrings.

jinx · 04-22-2010, 11:09 AM

There's a reverse crunch bench/roman chair thing for that at the gym. It's works your hamstrings but you're really supposed to concentrate on using your glutes.

Flint · 04-22-2010, 05:23 PM

Here is an excellent video of how to do the Clean and Press with dumbells.

This is a completely different movement than what I have been doing: dumbell squat + hammer curls + Arnold press (nice for a quick whole-body workout, but very different from the "power" movement show here). I wonder how heavy I can go doing it this way:

Flint · 04-23-2010, 09:24 AM

And the answer is: heavy enough to tweak my shoulder, which had been feeling so good, despite all the heavy lifting I've been doing, that I had forgotten how bad it was bothering me for the last few years.

Man, ƒuck a bunch of power-lifting bullcrap. Everything I have ever read about proper lifting says that jerking weights around is bad, and I don't understand how to do this "power" crap with swinging, jerking, and otherwise inviting an injury.

But I think I will try this: jump-squat + cheating hammer curl + push press. Jump, bounce, bounce. Three distinct movements. I am determined to develop some heavy "whole body" things that I can do safely.

lumberjim · 04-23-2010, 08:45 PM

i overheard a trainer showing a client how to strengthen their joints....

he said... set up the machine (whichever one you are on) with WAY too much weight for you to move, and then just press against it for 10 seconds x 3 sets. he was demonstrating on a leg extender machine and talking about the knee joint....

made sense.... it tightens your ligaments up, and reduces the chance of injury.

then again...... the next guy i overhear will be saying the exact opposite.

Flint · 04-23-2010, 09:21 PM

If you train really heavy for at least one movement on each body part, going down to the 2 rep range, wouldn't you get basically the same benefit? For that matter, every time you go to failure on a set and really try to make that last rep, even going to partial reps and rest/pause reps, you should be getting that same benefit, i.e. pushing really hard against a weight that you can't move.

Everybody except first-day beginners should be training to failure. At least on the last set of every exercise.

Although I'll admit that I don't know the difference between training ligaments and training muscles/tendons.

04-20-2010, 05:35 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Got that covered, stretch them every morning. I want to WORK them. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-21-2010, 02:01 PM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Thanks, Spexx. I will try the dumbell variations for hamstring shown here, along with some stiff-legged deadlifts. lumberjim, I would be interested in the emails from your trainer. I am private messaging you my gmail. Please...do not send naked pictures of your hot wife! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-20-2010, 04:43 PM	#5
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Try a glaze, it might hold them together. Or, just make some kind of casserole that would require you to tear the ham into strings and chunks anyway. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-20-2010, 05:46 PM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I'm saying stretch them specifically before you do leg curls. make them longer AND stronger. glute bridge: http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...-baseball.html hammy stretch: http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...g-stretch.html also, you can lie on your back, and get a rope looped around your foot, and stretch your leg up and for the quad: http://www.coreperformance.com/knowl...-kneeling.html i have a few good emails from our trainer if you want, I'll forward to whoever wants them. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-21-2010, 02:43 PM	#8
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I like to do the things jim had illustrated here, with a ball. I put 12lb weights on my hips to make it more challenging. Doing the hip thrusts with a 16lb med ball on my hip also. You should think about adding a ball to your equip list, you can do lots of (in)stability stuff that will work more muscles than the ones you are actually focusing on, kwim? Even just a standing on a little squishy mat while you do stuff, and/or balancing on one foot helps with this. Oh, another thing... try leaping several feet, from one foot to the other and holding for several seconds upon landing. Repeat. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

04-21-2010, 11:55 PM	#9
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Yup I need to do hamstrings for my knee pain hang from a bar and do curls? i don't think so..... uh-oh, lower back issues rules out 3rd ex.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

04-22-2010, 04:42 AM	#10
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	You could do like Steve Reeves: Lie on the floor face down, have someone sit on your calves, then curl your own body weight up off the floor with your hamstrings. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-22-2010, 11:09 AM	#11
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	There's a reverse crunch bench/roman chair thing for that at the gym. It's works your hamstrings but you're really supposed to concentrate on using your glutes. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

04-22-2010, 05:23 PM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Here is an excellent video of how to do the Clean and Press with dumbells. This is a completely different movement than what I have been doing: dumbell squat + hammer curls + Arnold press (nice for a quick whole-body workout, but very different from the "power" movement show here). I wonder how heavy I can go doing it this way: __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-23-2010, 09:24 AM	#13
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	And the answer is: heavy enough to tweak my shoulder, which had been feeling so good, despite all the heavy lifting I've been doing, that I had forgotten how bad it was bothering me for the last few years. Man, ƒuck a bunch of power-lifting bullcrap. Everything I have ever read about proper lifting says that jerking weights around is bad, and I don't understand how to do this "power" crap with swinging, jerking, and otherwise inviting an injury. But I think I will try this: jump-squat + cheating hammer curl + push press. Jump, bounce, bounce. Three distinct movements. I am determined to develop some heavy "whole body" things that I can do safely. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-23-2010, 08:45 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i overheard a trainer showing a client how to strengthen their joints.... he said... set up the machine (whichever one you are on) with WAY too much weight for you to move, and then just press against it for 10 seconds x 3 sets. he was demonstrating on a leg extender machine and talking about the knee joint.... made sense.... it tightens your ligaments up, and reduces the chance of injury. then again...... the next guy i overhear will be saying the exact opposite. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-23-2010, 09:21 PM	#15
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	If you train really heavy for at least one movement on each body part, going down to the 2 rep range, wouldn't you get basically the same benefit? For that matter, every time you go to failure on a set and really try to make that last rep, even going to partial reps and rest/pause reps, you should be getting that same benefit, i.e. pushing really hard against a weight that you can't move. Everybody except first-day beginners should be training to failure. At least on the last set of every exercise. Although I'll admit that I don't know the difference between training ligaments and training muscles/tendons. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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