Shooting at Virginia Tech - Page 4

freshnesschronic · 04-17-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

whilst I understand your angst, might I remind you that only 33 dead would be considered a good day in Bagdhad?

This isn't Baghdad. This is the first world technologically advanced industrialized United States of America, the most powerful, influential, and "greatest" nation in modern times. Again, the largest US massacre by a single gunman. There is no anarchy, no social upheaval, no war torn sectors. This is the free world. And the incident is a damn serious one.

JayMcGee · 04-17-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

This isn't Baghdad. This is the first world technologically advanced industrialized United States of America, the most powerful, influential, and "greatest" nation in modern times. Again, the largest US massacre by a single gunman. There is no anarchy, no social upheaval, no war torn sectors. This is the free world. And the incident is a damn serious one.

Of course it is. And I'm sure the mothers in your country grieve that much harder than the mothers in Bagdhad.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-17-2007, 11:28 PM

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Of course it is. And I'm sure the mothers in your country grieve that much harder than the mothers in Bagdhad.

I agree Jay, just because our "standards" are higher does not make any loss of life an more or less important. We are all human beings and all our lives are worth the same and it is pathetic to think otherwise.

Cloud · 04-17-2007, 08:01 PM

I just wonder about these shooters. I think some people are born--bad. Off. Psycopathic.

Some of the roots of such can be traced to the parents, but not all, I think. I do think we need better support for teenagers in our culture.

Ibby · 04-17-2007, 08:17 PM

I think it's sick how all the newsies have flocked to VT like crows to a corpse.

glatt · 04-18-2007, 08:40 AM

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I think it's sick how all the newsies have flocked to VT like crows to a corpse.

I was watching Dateline NBC the night of the shooting, and it was amazing to see. Matt Lauer and some other old reporter were talking with each other on camera about what a "big story" this was and how surprising it was that the locals didn't understand why all the reporters were showing up.

It really sickened me. They had a very callous attitude. Two seasoned reporters telling war stories about past incidents and how this would make a great new story. They kept referring to this as a new record, like it was something to be broken. In almost the same breath, they went from talking about new records to potential copycats who might come out of the woodwork after this.

I half expected them to turn to the camera and say "So all you potential mass murderers out there, the new number is 33. You must kill more than 33 to get into the record books, and really it should be like 60 to get maximum impact."

duck_duck · 04-17-2007, 08:58 PM

America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

TheMercenary · 04-17-2007, 09:01 PM

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America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

Cool idea. So when are you going to advocate the elimination of the Penis so we can put an end to HIV/AIDS or the removal of all cars to stop drunk drivers. No greater act for the masses eh?

duck_duck · 04-17-2007, 09:07 PM

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Cool idea. So when are you going to advocate the elimination of the Penis so we can put an end to HIV/AIDS or the removal of all cars to stop drunk drivers. No greater act for the masses eh?

I suppose you can do it your way which is nothing and pretend there is no problem.

TheMercenary · 04-17-2007, 09:10 PM

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I suppose you can do it your way which is nothing and pretend there is no problem.

I really do believe that people should be held responsible for thier actions. Yes, you are correct. Or we could just go the way of some Nazi approach and confiscate all guns, that approach would still not work.

duck_duck · 04-17-2007, 09:12 PM

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I really do believe that people should be held responsible for thier actions. Yes, you are correct. Or we could just go the way of some Nazi approach and confiscate all guns, that approach would still not work.

It works in many parts of the world. I come from a place where the average person can not run down to a gun shop and buy a bunch of guns yet the crime rate is low and the people are free.

freshnesschronic · 04-17-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duck_duck

America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

TheMercenary · 04-17-2007, 09:13 PM

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Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

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duck_duck · 04-17-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

freshnesschronic · 04-17-2007, 09:40 PM

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But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

That is full of bias and bullshit. I strongly disagree. It's getting to the point where I'm almost offended as an American. Where do you hail from that is so much better than the USA?

04-17-2007, 08:01 PM	#4
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