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Old 06-11-2007, 07:36 PM   #46
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Cloud is right. This is a hard crowd and all of us "fucking newbies" as jinx called us in the NSFW dwellar thread are still having trouble transitioning to the well established.
The whining and the belly-aching just makes it worse for yourself. Toughen up. If you need to be liked by everyone this isn't the place for you (because xoB already filled that position...).
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:37 PM   #47
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I think the Cellar is fairly unique in the way it *operates*.

On other forums, people feel the need to respond to every single post and every comment made. You get a lot of "me too" or "oh that sucks" comments....thats not so here and I wonder if thats why some people feel they dont fit it??

I have never found the cellar to be a tough crowd, and I'm in no way an intellectual contributor....I'm more fluffy (insert batting eyelashes smiley here<<<<can we find one of them please???)

I did check out the lay of the land before I jumped in though... I did land in a bit of a shit fight with the influx of AG'ers...but I made it through
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:42 PM   #48
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Anger is good for you, as long as you keep it below a boil, according to new psychology research based on face reading.

People who respond to stressful situations with short-term anger or indignation have a sense of control and optimism that lacks in those who respond with fear.
It's an interesting article. The rest of it is here.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:42 PM   #49
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:57 PM   #50
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There's nothing I hate worse than reading page after page after page of "oh The Cellar is mean" "No it's not" "This person hates me" "No she doesn't" "Well yeah actually I do". So in some sense I should have never opened this thread. But I'm glad I did, because it meant I got to read Sundae Girl's magisterial reply in #6.

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Sundae Girl asked me to make a nice shiny new thread cuz it didnt fit in the human body explotation thread so here it is

i dont understand. i read a great article cloud posted somewhurr buried in cellar meta.
I have to tell you, you won't get very far here unless you can write better than this. Nobody's going to hand your post back to you marked up in red ink over the occasional typo (well, almost nobody) (well, hardly ever) but if it hurts to read it, most people won't. If you take that as an insult, it's not intended as such--it's just how it is, and not just here. Hell, I've said the same thing in practically the same words to my own daughter.

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complainin about the cellar and its current state pssssh, why dont u all, in the popular group get it together so us "newbies" will like you and like to BE here, because a lot of us don't appreciate the "welcome" we've received.
May I ask why you want to be accepted by the "popular group" (quotes used because I don't believe there is such a thing)? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm serious. Why? What do you see that you're interested in "joining"? I'm not saying you shouldn't want to, or that you're not welcome. (I personally love fresh blood.) But I'm curious what the attraction is for you, since it's obviously something that agitates you.

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P.S. I don't want to refute your points. I'm not good at drawing conclusive evidence, remembering my "show" with ducky? It got so that reason < emotion, which is why LJ can make me look like an ass.
I'm sorry, but you lose. You will not get anything more reasonable than Sundae Girl's reply. Are you really saying, "you're proving Jebo's point, but I won't explain how?" That kind of argument isn't going to get you far. (And I don't mean just here.)

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flint, THIS is how you get everyone talking about you. come sit at the feet of the master. i accomplished this in my spare time while at work, too.
Spare time? Bullshit. "Well, Mrs. McGillicuddy, your credit rating is a little bit on the low side, but let me see what I can do for you. It may take a while." Followed by 5 minutes to get a loan approved and packaged, and 40 minutes of Cellar posting.

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why i gotta be a dick? why i gotta be a' asshole?
Obviously the answer is to put the dick and the asshole together.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:03 PM   #51
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:06 PM   #52
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Goddamnit Jim, now you're giving Steve Dallas the clap... you're evil.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 PM   #53
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I see my name being posted, which of course interests me, but I'm too lazy to read the thread.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:22 PM   #54
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Group acceptance is such a powerful thing to some people that they just can't get past it. Do they like me? I couldn't stand it if they didn't! Do they want me around? I really really hope they do!

But to other people, this kind of need is non-existent; they just seem to present themselves, and if you don't like them, it's your problem.

Is it better to be in group A or group B?
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #55
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This is like the "examined life" versus not conundrum.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:24 PM   #56
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:25 PM   #57
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why i gotta be a dick? why i gotta be a' asshole? I am clearly a motherfucker. get some skillz before you come frontin' up in dis hizzouse.
How about jackass?
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:26 PM   #58
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Group acceptance is such a powerful thing to some people that they just can't get past it. Do they like me? I couldn't stand it if they didn't! Do they want me around? I really really hope they do!

But to other people, this kind of need is non-existent; they just seem to present themselves, and if you don't like them, it's your problem.

Is it better to be in group A or group B?
UT -- this sounds like a good topic for a poll.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:28 PM   #59
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pssst! this is how you fit in:

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GROUP W
Group W for wannabes, who wanna be me but ain't so they cry theyselves to sleep.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:35 PM   #60
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I think it's important to understand that most people are on some level of 'newbie-ness' Most people are trying to just find footing. Some of us arn't even a year old yet. You might get some clues by reading join dates.ie( like hawkeye for one) It is what is. There are no secret rites to get in. You don't have to kiss anyones ass..promise.


...anyway.
I wanted to make a separate 'welcome' to the newbies but I didn't want it to seem like an attention seeking thread which isn't where I am comming from. SO I just want to tell all you new ones that you are noticed. I'd throw you a welcome party with cake and balloons if it make you feel better. I feel your frustration.

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