Jesus Loves You ! - Page 7

lumberjim · 08-17-2007, 02:37 PM

he said 'imply'

for someone who's been pissing on about people not reading, you sure are having comprehension problems. maybe if you acted like someone who reads posts, you'd do better?

xoxoxoBruce · 08-17-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Christians state the bible is the "truth".

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Christianity is license to do anything that pops into your head.

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Show me where I said all Christians were guilty.

There's two of many, very many.

08-17-2007, 04:07 PM

The bible does just that.
If Christians do not state the bible is truth, on what do they base their beliefs?
In no way did I say Christians, I said Christianity.
You can't tell the difference between the individuals and the organization?
Shame.

You call that "Imply"? Funny, you interpret something for yourself and put it on me... have at it. It's funny.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-17-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

The bible does just that.
If Christians do not state the bible is truth, on what do they base their beliefs?

They don't say the Bible is truth, they say the truth is in the bible.
If I read a book in the Bible and believe it to be a true story, as close as they can get it through multiple translations anyway, that doesn't mean you can pluck out a verse and say that's what the bible says? It's the same as you can't pluck a post out of this thread and say, that's what the thread says, or an entire thread and say that's what the Cellar says.

Also, the Christian faith is based on Jesus Christ's teachings, the old testament is just what led up to that point, so it's truth is a moot point.

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In no way did I say Christians,

The fuck you didn't.
Originally Posted by rkzenrage
Christians state the bible is the "truth".

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I said Christianity.
You can't tell the difference between the individuals and the organization?
Shame.

Yes, you also said Christianity. Are you trying to claim it is less a blanket indictment of all Christians? Shame indeed.

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You call that "Imply"? Funny, you interpret something for yourself and put it on me... have at it. It's funny.

OK, lets not call it imply, lets call it the outright fucking lie that it is.

08-17-2007, 06:07 PM

Which of Jesu's teachings? Hate your mother and father, come with a sword, love everyone? Everyone gets to pick their favorite.
You are making my point, you can make the bible say whatever you want.
You took my quote out of context and changed the basis for the reply. Cute.
If its not the truth then there is no belief based on it... speaking of lies.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-17-2007, 06:45 PM

OK, cite;
Where Jesus said, hate your mother and father.
Where Jesus said, come with a sword.
I know where he said love thy neighbor as thy self.

Took you're quote out of context? I don't think so, but I must yield to your level of expertise, since you're the consummate pro at that.

08-17-2007, 10:25 PM

Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."

Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
- Matthew 10:34

xoxoxoBruce · 08-18-2007, 01:18 AM

In both of those verses Jesus was speaking to the apostles, warning them if they were not completely committed they were wasting their time, and his. Emphasizing the job they were setting out to do would be opposed by a whole host of opponents.

He was warning them it wasn't going to be a walk in the park, but like a war, against everything from kings with armies to whining relatives, trying to dissuade and detour them at every turn. He was telling them if they weren't prepared to give up everything and everyone, don't even start.

That's why there were only 12 apostles out of the multitudes he spoke to. Notice he wasn't saying go out and tell everyone this message, these weren't boot camp speeches, this was green Beret training.

The reason they were recorded is for street creds... these were the apostles credentials to preach to the masses after Jesus was gone.

08-18-2007, 01:24 AM

Oh, so that's different. I see.

Happy Monkey · 08-18-2007, 08:46 PM

It's like when Scientologists sell Dianetics to the masses, but when you're pot committed, they bring out Xenu.

08-19-2007, 02:10 AM

Some awesome videos here.

08-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#91
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	he said 'imply' for someone who's been pissing on about people not reading, you sure are having comprehension problems. maybe if you acted like someone who reads posts, you'd do better? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#96
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	OK, cite; Where Jesus said, hate your mother and father. Where Jesus said, come with a sword. I know where he said love thy neighbor as thy self. Took you're quote out of context? I don't think so, but I must yield to your level of expertise, since you're the consummate pro at that. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-18-2007, 01:18 AM	#98
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	In both of those verses Jesus was speaking to the apostles, warning them if they were not completely committed they were wasting their time, and his. Emphasizing the job they were setting out to do would be opposed by a whole host of opponents. He was warning them it wasn't going to be a walk in the park, but like a war, against everything from kings with armies to whining relatives, trying to dissuade and detour them at every turn. He was telling them if they weren't prepared to give up everything and everyone, don't even start. That's why there were only 12 apostles out of the multitudes he spoke to. Notice he wasn't saying go out and tell everyone this message, these weren't boot camp speeches, this was green Beret training. The reason they were recorded is for street creds... these were the apostles credentials to preach to the masses after Jesus was gone. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-18-2007, 08:46 PM	#100
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	It's like when Scientologists sell Dianetics to the masses, but when you're pot committed, they bring out Xenu. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-17-2007, 04:07 PM	#93
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	The bible does just that. If Christians do not state the bible is truth, on what do they base their beliefs? In no way did I say Christians, I said Christianity. You can't tell the difference between the individuals and the organization? Shame. You call that "Imply"? Funny, you interpret something for yourself and put it on me... have at it. It's funny.

08-17-2007, 06:07 PM	#95
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Which of Jesu's teachings? Hate your mother and father, come with a sword, love everyone? Everyone gets to pick their favorite. You are making my point, you can make the bible say whatever you want. You took my quote out of context and changed the basis for the reply. Cute. If its not the truth then there is no belief based on it... speaking of lies.

08-17-2007, 10:25 PM	#97
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple." Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Matthew 10:34

08-18-2007, 01:24 AM	#99
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, so that's different. I see.

08-19-2007, 02:10 AM	#101
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Some awesome videos here.

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