If You Were Going to be on Montel, Wouldn't You Tell Your Coworkers?

wolf · 03-30-2006, 02:27 AM

You know how sometimes you hear about something after the fact, and wonder why you didn't know beforehand?

This is one of those things. One of my coworkers was supposed to have been on a recent episode of Montel. She is part time, and I don't see her all that often, but a lot of information of much lesser impact crashes through our well-maintained and oiled rumor mill in a matter of hours. Montel doesn't have a decent enough searchable episode guide to even attempt to find the episode number, or to determine whether it might be rebroadcast at any time soon.

The daughter of one of our employees was murdered in a hotel room nearby. I came across the affidavit of probable cause filed on the killer. Alleged killer. Whatever. It provided some significantly grimmy details of which I was previously unaware.

The list of charges is fairly impressive ... but it looks like this hasn't gone to trial as the case is still logged as "active"

Murder Of The First Degree
Murder Of The Second Degree
Murder Of The Third Degree
Kidnap To Facilitate A Felony
Kidnap To Inflict Inj/Terror
Unlaw Restraint/Risk Ser Injury
Rape Forcible Compulsion
IDSI Forcible Compulsion
Indec Asslt-W/O Cons Of Other
Abuse Of Corpse
Robbery
Unsworn Fals Auth Written Stmt

Her appearance would probably have been in some way related to this case.

barefoot serpent · 03-30-2006, 10:44 AM

Perhaps the TV appearance is a preemptive attempt to prevent a plea deal?

wolf · 03-30-2006, 11:01 AM

This is a death penalty case, so that does make some sense.

Elspode · 03-30-2006, 11:23 AM

"Abuse of corpse". Wow. That's an overachiever, even for a murdering scumbag.

LabRat · 03-30-2006, 11:26 AM

That's the one that got me too.

wolf · 03-30-2006, 11:27 AM

Trust me, you don't want to read the affidavit of probable cause.

"Indec Asslt-W/O Cons Of Other"

I'm trying to figure out if there is such a thing as "Indec Asslt-W/ Cons Of Other"

I also wonder about "Theft by Unlawful Taking."

Elspode · 03-30-2006, 12:01 PM

From the list of charges, it doesn't look like there's much left to charge the guy with, except for perhaps jaywalking or unlawful use of a cleaning utensil.

I hope the guy gets what he deserves. I vaguely remember you mentioning the incident when it happened originally...was this some sort of drug-crazed thing, or was this guy someone who probably should have been a resident of your employer?

SteveDallas · 03-30-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

I'm trying to figure out if there is such a thing as "Indec Asslt-W/ Cons Of Other"

Yeah, one time I saw a reference to a charge of Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse. I wondered if there was a "voluntary" law as well.

Anyways, to answer the specific question in the topic, I guess it would depend on the purpose of my appearance on Montel. Though obviously it would be stupid to think it wouldn't get back to them eventually. ("Hey, Steve, is it true you were on Montel when they had 'people with unbelievably dense coworkers' day?")

Elspode · 03-30-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

("Hey, Steve, is it true you were on Montel when they had 'people with unbelievably dense coworkers' day?")

It is entirely possible that one of my coworkers would cite me in *their* Montel appearance...

jinx · 03-30-2006, 12:48 PM

This was the murder at the Motel 6 in KOP wolf?

A family we know thru school was featured on Dateline around this past xmas. They put up flyers and the father came and discussed the show at a meeting so everyone would know about it. The circumstances were a lot different though...

wolf · 03-30-2006, 01:07 PM

Yes, it was. Whatever you do, don't ever agree to stay in room 252.

Trilby · 03-30-2006, 05:38 PM

wolf, didn't you foresee this murder? Or, was that another one? I recall you just "knowing" about a murder or suspected suicide of one of your coworkers. How many of your coworkers HAVE committed suicide or gone insane?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-30-2006, 07:38 PM

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How many of your coworkers HAVE committed suicide or gone insane?

[hushed tones]we don't talk about that. [hushed tones]

wolf · 03-30-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

How many of your coworkers HAVE committed suicide or gone insane?

Too many. I think I posted a detailed litany somewhere around here.

The one I knew had been murdered, wrapped in plastic, and dumped in his own basement was the one who was too reliable not to show up at work.

He got several weeks worth of summertime stinky before the local police went to reinterview his girlfriend and they finally noticed the eau d'deadguy that had been complained about by the neighbors for some time.

Beestie · 03-30-2006, 10:01 PM

Montel is the only one of those daytime interviewer types I can stand. He seems genuinely more interested in his guests than in himself. I think he's an ex-marine or is it formerly active marine.

03-30-2006, 02:27 AM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,548	If You Were Going to be on Montel, Wouldn't You Tell Your Coworkers? You know how sometimes you hear about something after the fact, and wonder why you didn't know beforehand? This is one of those things. One of my coworkers was supposed to have been on a recent episode of Montel. She is part time, and I don't see her all that often, but a lot of information of much lesser impact crashes through our well-maintained and oiled rumor mill in a matter of hours. Montel doesn't have a decent enough searchable episode guide to even attempt to find the episode number, or to determine whether it might be rebroadcast at any time soon. The daughter of one of our employees was murdered in a hotel room nearby. I came across the affidavit of probable cause filed on the killer. Alleged killer. Whatever. It provided some significantly grimmy details of which I was previously unaware. The list of charges is fairly impressive ... but it looks like this hasn't gone to trial as the case is still logged as "active" Murder Of The First Degree Murder Of The Second Degree Murder Of The Third Degree Kidnap To Facilitate A Felony Kidnap To Inflict Inj/Terror Unlaw Restraint/Risk Ser Injury Rape Forcible Compulsion IDSI Forcible Compulsion Indec Asslt-W/O Cons Of Other Abuse Of Corpse Robbery Unsworn Fals Auth Written Stmt Her appearance would probably have been in some way related to this case. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 11:01 AM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,548	This is a death penalty case, so that does make some sense. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 11:23 AM	#4
Elspode Serve ice cold, add salt to taste Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,433	"Abuse of corpse". Wow. That's an overachiever, even for a murdering scumbag. __________________ Peas and Logic, Patrick "He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it." Douglas Adams

03-30-2006, 11:26 AM	#5
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,131	That's the one that got me too. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

03-30-2006, 11:27 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,548	Trust me, you don't want to read the affidavit of probable cause. "Indec Asslt-W/O Cons Of Other" I'm trying to figure out if there is such a thing as "Indec Asslt-W/ Cons Of Other" I also wonder about "Theft by Unlawful Taking." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 10:44 AM	#2
barefoot serpent go ahead, abbrev. it Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 2,623	Perhaps the TV appearance is a preemptive attempt to prevent a plea deal?

03-30-2006, 12:01 PM	#7
Elspode Serve ice cold, add salt to taste Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,433	From the list of charges, it doesn't look like there's much left to charge the guy with, except for perhaps jaywalking or unlawful use of a cleaning utensil. I hope the guy gets what he deserves. I vaguely remember you mentioning the incident when it happened originally...was this some sort of drug-crazed thing, or was this guy someone who probably should have been a resident of your employer? __________________ Peas and Logic, Patrick "He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it." Douglas Adams

03-30-2006, 12:48 PM	#10
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	This was the murder at the Motel 6 in KOP wolf? A family we know thru school was featured on Dateline around this past xmas. They put up flyers and the father came and discussed the show at a meeting so everyone would know about it. The circumstances were a lot different though... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-30-2006, 01:07 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,548	Yes, it was. Whatever you do, don't ever agree to stay in room 252. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 05:38 PM	#12
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	wolf, didn't you foresee this murder? Or, was that another one? I recall you just "knowing" about a murder or suspected suicide of one of your coworkers. How many of your coworkers HAVE committed suicide or gone insane? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-30-2006, 07:38 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 41,823	HTML Code: How many of your coworkers HAVE committed suicide or gone insane? [hushed tones]we don't talk about that. [hushed tones] __________________ Everything is interesting... look closer.

03-30-2006, 10:01 PM	#15
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 3,970	Montel is the only one of those daytime interviewer types I can stand. He seems genuinely more interested in his guests than in himself. I think he's an ex-marine or is it formerly active marine. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

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