Run Away!!!!

Pangloss62 · 10-02-2006, 02:29 PM

"I strongly believe that I am an alcoholic and have accepted the need for immediate treatment for alcoholism and other behavioral problems," Foley, a Republican, said in a statement, Roth told the AP.

You guys think this story has strong enough legs to usurp the GOP in November? Has Hastert dug a hole for himself?

glatt · 10-02-2006, 02:50 PM

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You guys think this story has strong enough legs to usurp the GOP in November? Has Hastert dug a hole for himself?

I think it's another nail in the coffin. But this fucking vampire has a crowbar. Another nail might not be enough.

Flint · 10-02-2006, 02:57 PM

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...this fucking vampire has a crowbar...

God, they have to use that in a political ad!

Spexxvet · 10-02-2006, 02:57 PM

Let's see what you support when you vote repubican....

Anybody? Beuhler? Ok, I'll start.

When you vote repubican, you support a party that claims the higher moral ground, claims to be anti-pedophilia, anti-gay (although they phrase spin it to only be "gay marriage"), and pro law-and-order. What they really do is protect one of their own who may have attempted to break the law, is morally inferior, is gay, and is a pedophile.

Next!

Pangloss62 · 10-02-2006, 03:00 PM

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Another nail might not be enough

Yeah, the constituency of God's Own Party has a problem with selective myopia. Just another page in a long story.

Happy Monkey · 10-02-2006, 03:34 PM

Apparently they kept it secret for a year because they were afraid of being accused of gay-bashing.

Flint · 10-02-2006, 03:38 PM

They would have been "accused of gay bashing" because "the original notes had no sexual innuendo" ???

Happy Monkey · 10-02-2006, 03:54 PM

I didn't say it made any sense.

There's bigger problem with the "explanation", however. The fact that "it was a male-male relationship" is irrelevant. The fact that the kid was sixteen is the issue.

Foley + A Woman = (outside marriage) turns off fundies a little
Foley + A Man = turns off fundies a lot
Foley + A Man Who Works for Foley = inappropriate, ethics issue
Foley + A Woman Who Works for Foley = inappropriate, ethics issue
Foley + A Child = crime. Boy, girl? Irrelevant.

Flint · 10-02-2006, 03:58 PM

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I didn't say it made any sense.

I was, uh, quoting Gingrich.

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There's [a] bigger problem...

Good point. All-around shoddy spin...

Happy Monkey · 10-02-2006, 04:04 PM

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I was, uh, quoting Gingrich.

I know, I was just disavowing any support for what Gingrich said.

Flint · 10-02-2006, 04:06 PM

Fair enough. It would be like having dog poo on your shoes if you hadn't done that.

BigV · 10-02-2006, 05:40 PM

Have any of you read the "transcripts" of the IM/text exchanges between Foley and the kid? I don't usually indulge my purient impulses, but this one got through. It is sickening. The headline on the ABC site warns Reader Discretion Strongly Advised. I agree.

link to transcript

My first reaction to this story on Friday afternoon was to say wait wait wait. Let's just see what happens. Innocent until proven guilty. I still feel that way, but I must say the evidence piling up is very damaging. And disgusting.

richlevy · 10-02-2006, 06:59 PM

It will be interesting to see what effect this will have on the elections. There was no time to pull Foley's name off the ballot, so all votes for him will go to a substitute, Joe Negron.

This means that the people who vote Foley on the ballot are:

Those who know they are electing Negron and approve of him.
Those who know they are electing someone who will replace Foley and prefer any Republican to Democrat Tim Mahoney.
Those who think they are reelecting Foley even knowing what he is accused of and still prefer him to a Democrat.
Those who are completely clueless about the whole affair and/or are just pulling the Republican lever.

Of course having established themselves as the party who wanted to impeach a president over lying over a consensual affair with an adult woman, being accused of covering up the alleged solicitation of minors does bring things into perspective.

Special prosecutor. anyone?

From here

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Whomever Republicans pick faces an uphill challenge against Democrat Tim Mahoney in a district that was seen as a safe GOP seat until last week.
The new GOP candidate will have only five weeks to finance and run a campaign and, because of a state law that bars removal of the original nominee's name, will have to convince voters that marking their ballots for the tarnished Foley will benefit the Republican replacement.
Republicans are banking on the Republican leanings of a district that voted 54 percent for President Bush in 2004.
Rooney says some friends have told him that running a short campaign under Foley's name is a "suicide mission." But, Rooney says, "I think it's possible. It is a Republican district."

Looking on the bright side, he's a shoe-in for the NAMBLA vote.

Elspode · 10-02-2006, 10:01 PM

Isn't gay pedophelia okay if you're a God-fearing, moral Right-Winger? I mean, its less dirty when they do it, right?

10-02-2006, 10:31 PM

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Isn't gay pedophelia okay if you're a God-fearing, moral Right-Winger? I mean, its less dirty when they do it, right?

Well, see, anybody who looked back at Foley's actions was supposed to turn into a pillar of salt. So those reporters who broke the story and everyone who read about it or saw it on TV will soon be in a box with a little girl carrying an umbrella on the label. Just you wait - any second, now. In just another moment.

10-02-2006, 02:29 PM	#1
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Run Away!!!! "I strongly believe that I am an alcoholic and have accepted the need for immediate treatment for alcoholism and other behavioral problems," Foley, a Republican, said in a statement, Roth told the AP. You guys think this story has strong enough legs to usurp the GOP in November? Has Hastert dug a hole for himself? __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

10-02-2006, 02:57 PM	#4
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Let's see what you support when you vote repubican.... Anybody? Beuhler? Ok, I'll start. When you vote repubican, you support a party that claims the higher moral ground, claims to be anti-pedophilia, anti-gay (although they phrase spin it to only be "gay marriage"), and pro law-and-order. What they really do is protect one of their own who may have attempted to break the law, is morally inferior, is gay, and is a pedophile. Next! __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

10-02-2006, 03:34 PM	#6
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Apparently they kept it secret for a year because they were afraid of being accused of gay-bashing. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-02-2006, 03:38 PM	#7
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	They would have been "accused of gay bashing" because "the original notes had no sexual innuendo" ??? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-02-2006, 03:54 PM	#8
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I didn't say it made any sense. There's bigger problem with the "explanation", however. The fact that "it was a male-male relationship" is irrelevant. The fact that the kid was sixteen is the issue. Foley + A Woman = (outside marriage) turns off fundies a little Foley + A Man = turns off fundies a lot Foley + A Man Who Works for Foley = inappropriate, ethics issue Foley + A Woman Who Works for Foley = inappropriate, ethics issue Foley + A Child = crime. Boy, girl? Irrelevant. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-02-2006, 04:06 PM	#11
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Fair enough. It would be like having dog poo on your shoes if you hadn't done that. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-02-2006, 05:40 PM	#12
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Have any of you read the "transcripts" of the IM/text exchanges between Foley and the kid? I don't usually indulge my purient impulses, but this one got through. It is sickening. The headline on the ABC site warns Reader Discretion Strongly Advised. I agree. link to transcript My first reaction to this story on Friday afternoon was to say wait wait wait. Let's just see what happens. Innocent until proven guilty. I still feel that way, but I must say the evidence piling up is very damaging. And disgusting. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

10-02-2006, 10:01 PM	#14
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Isn't gay pedophelia okay if you're a God-fearing, moral Right-Winger? I mean, its less dirty when they do it, right? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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