Fill your life with importance and meaning

Cloud · 04-02-2007, 12:16 PM

The title and inspiration of this thread comes from someone's Amazon list, which has some nice things on it:

Trina Casey's Amazon list

I'm just curious to know what would be on your list.

Sundae · 04-02-2007, 12:32 PM

The lack of money can have an impact on how happy you are - money brings choices and with more choices there are greater opportunities to be happy.

But I shrink away from the idea that I could fill my life with importance and meaning by writing a shopping list.

Cloud · 04-02-2007, 12:57 PM

Well, I think you're very right, Sundae Girl. However, the idea is less about the "shopping" or listing items, than it is about--

--learning Italian
--recording your family's memories
--going camping with your family
--cooking

if you look at the list, that's the sort of thing she mentions, and what I'm looking for.

the shopping is just a bonus!

Sundae · 04-02-2007, 01:06 PM

Meh, I'm grumpy because money is tight at the moment

wolf · 04-02-2007, 01:14 PM

from that chick's list ... I may have to get one of these, but the product information doesn't say anything about how bullet resistant it is or how the materials effect the flight characteristics.

Cloud · 04-02-2007, 01:19 PM

probably more important that it's dog-bite resistant! Unless you use yours for target practice, of course

piercehawkeye45 · 04-02-2007, 04:08 PM

Happiness can come from having less money too.

One main point of Buddhism is that you can find "everything in nothing and nothing in everything".

glatt · 04-02-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Happiness can come from having less money too.

One main point of Buddhism is that you can find "everything in nothing and nothing in everything".

Sure, but only if you have the security of knowing that your needs will be taken care of.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-02-2007, 10:30 PM

Yes, physical ones.

Does anyone here agree with Maslow's hierarchy or needs? I have found some flaws in it but from experiencing different levels, I have found it pretty accurate.

bluecuracao · 04-03-2007, 12:15 AM

That's an interesting diagram, though I think the self-actualization part ought to come right after the physiological needs.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-03-2007, 12:46 AM

Any reason? I actually found this very accurate having juggling through levels 3-5 for past two years. I know I am not at self-actualization but you know when you visit that stage temporarily.

I have had a sense of belonging but low self-esteem but never had high self-esteem without a sense of belonging. I disagree with some of the reasons for being at a level but agree 100% with how they are roughly grouped.

bluecuracao · 04-03-2007, 01:34 AM

Sorry, I should have explained. I think that with self-actualization, much of the rest can fall into place, or be worked on. A lot of those things that are in between on the diagram can go awry (especially in the safey and love/belonging realms), but if you have most of what's at the top or the bottom, you're alright. And I believe that you should have self-actualization first to achieve esteem. However, that's my personal take on it--"results may vary."

TheMercenary · 04-03-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Sorry, I should have explained. I think that with self-actualization, much of the rest can fall into place, or be worked on. And I believe that you should have self-actualization first to achieve esteem. However, that's my personal take on it--"results may vary."

Been there, did that. Now it's about the money.

04-02-2007, 12:16 PM	#1
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Fill your life with importance and meaning The title and inspiration of this thread comes from someone's Amazon list, which has some nice things on it: Trina Casey's Amazon list I'm just curious to know what would be on your list. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

04-02-2007, 12:32 PM	#2
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	The lack of money can have an impact on how happy you are - money brings choices and with more choices there are greater opportunities to be happy. But I shrink away from the idea that I could fill my life with importance and meaning by writing a shopping list. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

04-02-2007, 12:57 PM	#3
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Well, I think you're very right, Sundae Girl. However, the idea is less about the "shopping" or listing items, than it is about-- --learning Italian --recording your family's memories --going camping with your family --cooking if you look at the list, that's the sort of thing she mentions, and what I'm looking for. the shopping is just a bonus! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

04-02-2007, 01:06 PM	#4
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Meh, I'm grumpy because money is tight at the moment __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

04-02-2007, 01:14 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	from that chick's list ... I may have to get one of these, but the product information doesn't say anything about how bullet resistant it is or how the materials effect the flight characteristics. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-02-2007, 01:19 PM	#6
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	probably more important that it's dog-bite resistant! Unless you use yours for target practice, of course __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

04-02-2007, 04:08 PM	#7
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Happiness can come from having less money too. One main point of Buddhism is that you can find "everything in nothing and nothing in everything".

04-02-2007, 10:30 PM	#9
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Yes, physical ones. Does anyone here agree with Maslow's hierarchy or needs? I have found some flaws in it but from experiencing different levels, I have found it pretty accurate.

04-03-2007, 12:15 AM	#10
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	That's an interesting diagram, though I think the self-actualization part ought to come right after the physiological needs.

04-03-2007, 12:46 AM	#11
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Any reason? I actually found this very accurate having juggling through levels 3-5 for past two years. I know I am not at self-actualization but you know when you visit that stage temporarily. I have had a sense of belonging but low self-esteem but never had high self-esteem without a sense of belonging. I disagree with some of the reasons for being at a level but agree 100% with how they are roughly grouped.

04-03-2007, 01:34 AM	#12
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Sorry, I should have explained. I think that with self-actualization, much of the rest can fall into place, or be worked on. A lot of those things that are in between on the diagram can go awry (especially in the safey and love/belonging realms), but if you have most of what's at the top or the bottom, you're alright. And I believe that you should have self-actualization first to achieve esteem. However, that's my personal take on it--"results may vary."

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