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Old 04-27-2007, 11:32 PM   #1
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Things that make you go "hmmmmmm..."

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Old 04-27-2007, 11:44 PM   #2
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I wonder if there's a burgeoning but untapped market for Faraday headwear.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:48 PM   #3
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Wow I have never heard of electrosensitivity before.
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:52 AM   #4
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:25 AM   #5
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This one made me go hmmmm...

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fuck off you superior twat. smart arse big mouth condescnding fuckwit. everybody pull your tongues out of his butt - suck ups.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:11 AM   #6
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fuck off you superior twat. smart arse big mouth condescnding fuckwit. everybody pull your tongues out of his butt - suck ups.
Yea, me too.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:06 AM   #7
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Wow I have never heard of electrosensitivity before.
It's usually called "hypochondria" or "psychosomatic".
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:05 PM   #8
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I use to wonder, when I was a kid, how come a radio can work inside the house. Discovering the electromagnetic waves go everywhere was a little unsettling considering we operate (or not) on electrochemical impulses.

Of course the amount of waves zipping through the air is increasing exponentially. At work, everything coming in has RFID tags and you can't walk 100 feet without passing through a scanning field. At DuPont, the door would unlock as I approached with a RFID in my wallet.... in my back pocket. That means the waves had to go through me.

Calling it "hypochondria" or "psychosomatic" doesn't make it so. There are plenty of people suffering from things the majority don't. They are written off as crackpots until someone discovers the cause/effect is valid, even if it only applies to a handful of people.

If she was trying to make a buck off it, I'd be immediately suspicious but I doesn't cost me anything to give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:35 PM   #9
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The failure of the double-blind test makes it hypochondria or psychosomatic. If she were trying to make a buck off of it, it would be neither- it would be fraud, or a scam.
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:37 PM   #10
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For while when I was young Florsent lights used to mess with me , they would fiicker and I could feel it in my teeth , just a slight buzzing , fillings ????

I can hear some scales working , Electro-magnetic compinsation load cells speficaly , they buzz when they are powered up , a few years ago I took a class and I asked the instructer about this , he said that the coil does vibrate , but most folks can't hear it .
I guess that I am just special !!!!
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:21 AM   #11
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The failure of the double-blind test makes it hypochondria or psychosomatic. If she were trying to make a buck off of it, it would be neither- it would be fraud, or a scam.
What double blind test? I didn't see any reference to one in the article, did I miss something?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:23 AM   #12
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For while when I was young Florsent lights used to mess with me , they would fiicker and I could feel it in my teeth , just a slight buzzing , fillings ????

I can hear some scales working , Electro-magnetic compinsation load cells speficaly , they buzz when they are powered up , a few years ago I took a class and I asked the instructer about this , he said that the coil does vibrate , but most folks can't hear it .
I guess that I am just special !!!!
You're lucky you don't wear hearing aids, that would ready scare you.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:52 AM   #13
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What double blind test? I didn't see any reference to one in the article, did I miss something?
Almost at the very end:

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Other research has backed the view of the medical and scientific establishment.

In one "provocation" study, a number of people who claimed to have electrical sensitivity were placed in a room with a mobile phone and not told whether or not it was switched on.

Asked by a researcher how they felt, they failed to establish any link between physical symptoms and the alleged trigger.

Sarah Dacre believes that this is because the tests were carried out in an area with high background electrosmog.
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:25 PM   #14
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Oh ok, I thought he mean she was double blind tested.
I agree there have been tests of different electronics gizmos and nobody has been able to prove a link to any health problems, yet. That said, I can believe that some people are bothered by them, even if it's only a handful. It'll be 50 years or more before they really know.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:43 PM   #15
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Health effects are one thing- an increased incidence of cancer is possible. But if she can accurately detect whether a cell phone is on in a room she's in, she could probably get $1,000,000 from James Randi.
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