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King Of Wishful Thinking
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2009 Senate Elections
I was doing a quick fact check for the sex scandal thread and I saw something interesting. It's something I sort of knew already, but seeing it in print made an impression.
12 Democrats and 21 Republicans are up for reelection in 2009. With Democrats already in a slim lead in the Senate, this means in order to retake the majority, Republicans have to hold all 21 seats and steal at least 1 from the Democrats. Meanwhile, the White House has circled it's wagons and Bush, who is the titular head of the Republican party, seems to be providing them with the same leadership he has shown for most of his tenure as Commander-in-Chief, consisting mostly of denial and stubborn adherence to failed strategies. Also, with Democrats in the majority, the White House can no longer resort to questionable tactics and have to reluctantly reestablish the barriers mandated by the Hatch Act. In selecting Cheney as Vice President, a man who is clearly unable to run for President, Bush has also set up a power vacuum in the presidential elections unseen for decades. The resulting free-for-all cannot help but affect Senate elections. At the same time, Republicans are still expected to maintain some measure of party discipline, limiting their ability to distance themselves from a failed administration. This once effective relationship has become politically gangrenous for most members seeking reelection in all but the most partisan districts. All in all, the Reds have a good reason to be blue. From Here Quote:
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What's more, more D seats are considered party-safe.
Democrats Baucus, Max (D-MT) - safe Biden, Joseph R., Jr. (D-DE) - mostly safe Durbin, Richard (D-IL) - safe Harkin, Tom (D-IA) - safe Johnson, Tim (D-SD) - health problems, may retire Kerry, John F. (D-MA) - Somewhat low approval rating; would be replaced by another D regardless Landrieu, Mary L. (D-LA) - unsafe due to Katrina Lautenberg, Frank R. (D-NJ) - age 84 in 2008; low approval rating; moron; deserves to be replaced by the very smart Rob Andrews (D) Levin, Carl (D-MI) - safe Pryor, Mark L. (D-AR) - kind of unsafe Reed, Jack (D-RI) - safe Rockefeller, John D., IV (D-WV) - safe Republicans Alexander, Lamar (R-TN) - mostly safe Allard, Wayne (R-CO) - open, Allard retiring Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA) - safe Cochran, Thad (R-MS) - safe Coleman, Norm (R-MN) - sinking approval ratings; may face Al Franken Collins, Susan M. (R-ME) - mostly safe Cornyn, John (R-TX) - safe Craig, Larry E. (R-ID) - may retire but state will vote R Dole, Elizabeth (R-NC) - mostly safe Domenici, Pete V. (R-NM) - safe Enzi, Michael B. (R-WY) - safe Graham, Lindsey (R-SC) - safe Hagel, Chuck (R-NE) - may retire; sorta unsafe Inhofe, James M. (R-OK) - safe McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) - mostly safe Roberts, Pat (R-KS) - safe Sessions, Jeff (R-AL) - safe Smith, Gordon H. (R-OR) - unsafe Stevens, Ted (R-AK) - 85 in 2008; will probably run again and win anyway Sununu, John E. (R-NH) - unsafe Warner, John (R-VA) - mostly safe |
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Still a lot of time for the parties or individuals to piss off the voters. Mood can shift swiftly and the new president will have time to win or alienate the hearts and minds.
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You know, I had forgotten about Al Franken.
What's funny is that all of the actors and entertainers who became politicians that I can think of up until now have all been Republicans. Ronald Reagan Arnold Schwarzeneggar. Fred Thompson Fred Grandy (Gopher on the Love Boat) As for Mary Landrieu, the real problem for her opponent would be the completely f***cked up job by the White House. The only way a Republican would win that seat is to seriously badmouth the administration.
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Read? I only know how to write.
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Once coattails had relevance. In the past 20 years, that has not been true. If you could say the entire Republican party screwed up, then that logic may be valid. However a president does not appear to have the same influence on other elections as was true 30 years ago. Local opinions by a regional politician on an issue - ie "Mission Accomplished" - caused many states to vote out their "we want more war" representative. IOW I suggest it was not so much George Jr's opinion they were voting against. Many were voting against those who supported a "we want war" agenda or other issues such as corruption. I don't think the LA election would be based on the administration’s incompetence during Katrina. Voting probably would be more about what "Mary Landrieu did for us" after Katrina. That would suggest why the Governor is not popular but why the Senator may be reelected. |
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Sorry for my long posts
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The reason the seat is unsafe is because her voters have left.
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So GWB knew what he was doing all along in screwing over the city and botching the reconstruction? I'd almost prefer that he be some kind of sick Machiavellian genius instead of just someone who got elected to a position way over his head.
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Darn! I forgot about him. Another Republican. Can anyone name a former entertainer who became a Democratic member of Congress?
I will settle for Green Party, Independent, or Libertarian.
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How about John Glenn? Didn't he sit in a movie studio a act like he was going into space?
Just kidding...I'm sorry John.
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Jello Biafra ran for (and came in second place for) the Green party presidential nomination in '04.
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Worst case of buyer's remorse in US history.
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Second place for the Green Party nomination. That would make him 249,223,123 in line for the throne.
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