So it's assault if the batter uses the bat...

ferret88 · 08-16-2007, 10:35 AM

but it's not "assault" if the pitcher beans the batter with a ball. How's that work?

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...ORTS/708160316

Shawnee123 · 08-16-2007, 10:35 AM

Balls are bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy fun fun fun fun fun?

Cloud · 08-16-2007, 10:54 AM

because it's battery

Griff · 08-16-2007, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret88

but it's not "assault" if the pitcher beans the batter with a ball. How's that work?

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...ORTS/708160316

The pitcher is in the minor leagues because he can't find the plate. The batter finding his way to the mound with a weapon isn't defensible.

ferret88 · 08-16-2007, 12:37 PM

That makes sense, Griff. Thanks for clearing it up.

lumberjim · 08-16-2007, 01:11 PM

the trick is to accidentally wing the bat at the pitcher on the next pitch.

Rexmons · 08-16-2007, 02:14 PM

also if it's done with a weapon it's aggravated assault as opposed to just regular "with your hands" assault.

Cloud · 08-16-2007, 02:36 PM

assault means the threat of imminent harm, no touching involved.

battery is when there's touching.

jester · 08-16-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

assault means the threat of imminent harm, no touching involved.

that's when the kid is sitting beside their brother/sister holding their finger out - "i'm not touching you"

Cloud · 08-16-2007, 02:59 PM

yep!

yesman065 · 08-16-2007, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

assault means the threat of imminent harm, no touching involved. battery is when there's touching.

That is generally true, but not always.

sycamore · 08-16-2007, 10:05 PM

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Clodfobble · 08-16-2007, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman065

That is generally true, but not always.

Care to give an example? I'm not saying I don't trust your word, it's just that... Cloud's a lawyer, and you're not--so I don't trust your word on this one.

Cloud · 08-16-2007, 11:24 PM

wait! no, I'm not a lawyer, I'm a paralegal. I've studied some criminal law, but don't construe it as legal advice.

However, the statement, "that is generally true, but not always" is essentially meaningless. It's true of itself--that's a tautology, isn't it?

I'm sure there are exceptions. You can have assault and battery, which is what happens if someone comes up to you, threatens you, and actually causes you injury. I have no idea what the legal consequence of the whole baseball paradigm would be though. And even if I did, I wouldn't say. Cause I'm not a lawyer, yay!

Aliantha · 08-16-2007, 11:28 PM

I know a great fish and chip shop called "Assault and Battery"

08-16-2007, 10:35 AM	#1
ferret88 (This space left intentionally UN-blank.) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 604	So it's assault if the batter uses the bat... but it's not "assault" if the pitcher beans the batter with a ball. How's that work? http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...ORTS/708160316

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Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	because it's battery __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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lumberjim NOT food! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 19,188	the trick is to accidentally wing the bat at the pitcher on the next pitch. __________________ One is always in the dark about one's own personality. One needs others to get to know oneself. - Carl Jung

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Rexmons - Kavkaz United - Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 613	also if it's done with a weapon it's aggravated assault as opposed to just regular "with your hands" assault. __________________ "Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me..."

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ferret88 (This space left intentionally UN-blank.) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 604	That makes sense, Griff. Thanks for clearing it up.

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Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	assault means the threat of imminent harm, no touching involved. battery is when there's touching. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	yep! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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08-16-2007, 11:24 PM	#14
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	wait! no, I'm not a lawyer, I'm a paralegal. I've studied some criminal law, but don't construe it as legal advice. However, the statement, "that is generally true, but not always" is essentially meaningless. It's true of itself--that's a tautology, isn't it? I'm sure there are exceptions. You can have assault and battery, which is what happens if someone comes up to you, threatens you, and actually causes you injury. I have no idea what the legal consequence of the whole baseball paradigm would be though. And even if I did, I wouldn't say. Cause I'm not a lawyer, yay! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-16-2007, 11:28 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 14,927	I know a great fish and chip shop called "Assault and Battery" __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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