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Old 10-27-2007, 08:59 AM   #1
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Please Tase me Bro.

From here. I think that, conservative or liberal, playing the stalking journalist card on campus is a little despicable.

Where are the tasers when you need them?

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Student Hounds Prof Running for Office By DAVID EGGERT – 1 day ago
MOUNT PLEASANT, Mich. (AP) — A politically conservative student armed with a video camera and a Web site is trying to force a Democratic congressional candidate out of his teaching job at Central Michigan University.
Dennis Lennox, a 23-year-old junior, has posted videos on YouTube of himself questioning assistant professor Gary Peters about campaigning for office while holding a prestigious position at the university.
Some say Lennox is persistent. Others accuse him of pandering for attention.
"What I'm doing isn't about getting media attention," said Lennox, a political science major. "I'm speaking for the hundreds of students, alumni, taxpayers and even legislators who have complained because Gary Peters won't pick between Congress and campus."
In one video Lennox posted online, Peters is seen walking to his car while Lennox asks him several questions, including whether he is angry about his campaign not getting "positive press." Peters doesn't respond.
Peters said in an interview this week with The Associated Press that his university position is part-time and privately funded.
"The bottom line is that people who run for public office still need to pay the bills and still need to work," he said. He drives 130 miles from a Detroit suburb to Mount Pleasant to teach class once a week.
Peters, 48, is seeking the Democratic nomination to face Republican U.S. Rep. Joe Knollenberg in Oakland County, one of the top congressional targets for Democrats nationally in 2008.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:09 AM   #2
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Both sides do it. Both sides film. Both sides skip out of work to run for office. Mr. Lennox is just taking on this one person to make the point. I support his First Amendment rights. How does this differ from people who follow every famous person in Hollywood with cameras?
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:58 AM   #3
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Both sides do it. Both sides film. Both sides skip out of work to run for office. Mr. Lennox is just taking on this one person to make the point. I support his First Amendment rights. How does this differ from people who follow every famous person in Hollywood with cameras?
It doesn't. He's just as much pond scum as an aggresive paparazzi. I just don't like the fact that someone who disagrees with someone's politics can get away with stalking under the guise of the First Amendment, especially on a campus.

I wonder if, since Mr. Lennox has decided to make himself a public figure by stalking Mr. Peters, who made himself a public figure by running for office, I can sell T-Shirts with Mr. Lennox's face on them and the caption "Tase him, bro".

Of course, we could have counter-stalkers, aggressively interviewing Lennox while he tries to interview Peters. It would look interesting on YouTube.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:08 PM   #4
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I don't see why you are surprised or angered by it. The Dems have people following The Repubs around with cameras doing the same thing. For all we know the the Repubs hired the kid to do it, or maybe he is doing it pro bono. The bigger problem on campus is highlighted in this:

http://indoctrinate-u.com/pages/welcome.html

You should be outraged about that campus problem, but alas it would not support the liberal view, therefore it must be supressed, correct?
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:13 PM   #5
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I don't see why you are surprised or angered by it. The Dems have people following The Repubs around with cameras doing the same thing. For all we know the the Repubs hired the kid to do it, or maybe he is doing it pro bono. The bigger problem on campus is highlighted in this:

http://indoctrinate-u.com/pages/welcome.html

You should be outraged about that campus problem, but alas it would not support the liberal view, therefore it must be supressed, correct?
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The New York Sun calls Maloney the "conservative answer to Michael Moore," and observes that the film is expected "to emerge as a breakout theatrical hit." Click here to read the article.
Wait, I thought conservatives considered Moore deceptive. If this guy is the same, I guess they should complain, but alas it would not support the conservative view?
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:19 PM   #6
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Wait, I thought conservatives considered Moore deceptive. If this guy is the same, I guess they should complain, but alas it would not support the conservative view?
I couldn't tell you, most of my views are really not conservative at all, only on a few issues. I certainly consider Moore deceptive, but that is only because we have been able to easily examine his work and motivations. I don't know much about this other kid, other than he is just following this politico want-a-be around with a camera and documenting how little work he does in his payed job.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:28 PM   #7
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I couldn't tell you, most of my views are really not conservative at all, only on a few issues. I certainly consider Moore deceptive, but that is only because we have been able to easily examine his work and motivations. I don't know much about this other kid, other than he is just following this politico want-a-be around with a camera and documenting how little work he does in his payed job.
It's a privately funded paid job. I think the kid is focusing on the professor because of his politics, not because of the specifics of the situation. When in America was it ever necessary to quit one's job to tun for office?
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:58 PM   #8
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Well the kid can do whatever he wants in his own time. If he fails at Uni then it's his own fault for not paying attention to his studies. If this professor is pissed off about someone digging up dirt on him, he probably shouldn't be running for office.

As to most uni professors, most of them do hours and hours of work outside what they get paid for. I suspect that this student is disgruntled because he doesn't like the mans teaching style or something similar.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:57 PM   #9
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It's a privately funded paid job. I think the kid is focusing on the professor because of his politics, not because of the specifics of the situation. When in America was it ever necessary to quit one's job to tun for office?
Who cares if it is a privately paid job. The point is he is ripping someone off not working. He probably gets a six figure income and the kid is documenting the guys 15 hour work week. I will tell you if my kid was going to that university and I was paying for their education, I would be VERY interested to know how much the University was paying him and I would raise hell about it. I have one child in college now and another who will be going next year it is damm expensive.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:37 AM   #10
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Actually, according to the article, he travels in to teach a single class once a week. From what I can gather he was followed on his way to and from his car. Most Lecturers do their lesson planning and research in their own time, and maybe get a couple hours a week paid prep time. The only way you can say he hasn't been doing his work, is if he doesn't come and teach the class.

You are suggesting that he is taking money for 15 hours work and not actually doing the work, but instead spending his time campaigning. He has a right to spend time campaigning. he is only employed for a small portion of his week. The rest of his week is his own to do with as he wishes and is not being paid for by the public purse.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:50 PM   #11
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Thank you, Dana. Someone with some sense. As far as I can tell, Lennox's only argument is that the prof isn't doing enough as a teacher and should devote himself to either his job or his office (which he hasn't won). He also argues (completely unfounded, btw) that the prof 'might even run his campaign from the CMU campus,' and that the prof using a university computer to keep a blog is some sort of gross misuse.

The prof makes 65 grand a year for a part time gig as a PhD. The median salary for an associate professor in the states is 65 a year, and the average US prof makes about 85 grand a year. He's cheating the system? Sounds more like political stabs to me.

Plus, the guy looks like a toolbox:
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:59 PM   #12
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Plus, the guy looks like a toolbox:
OK, did try to stay away from mentioning that this guy might have been a casting execs dream for filling the role of evil preppie/jock in any number of college movies or lifetime date-rape specials. I thought that it might foster ugly stereotypes.
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