The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Technology
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Technology Computing, programming, science, electronics, telecommunications, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-06-2008, 11:40 AM   #1
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
Underwater Photography

We're traveling to Hawaii this spring and I am planning to take some pictures underwater. I am trying to decide what to use to take the pictures. I have a Canon Poweshot A710IS, which I love. I am fairly competent with the camera and the camera's specifications and capabilities are quite a good match for most of my photographic needs. But that doesn't extend to underwater photography.

I see Canon makes an underwater housing, WP-DC6, available for about $125, +- $25. That would make it an expensive accessory, with limited use, since I don't dive very much anymore, though I do have my NAUI open water certification. Perhaps with the addition of underwater photography as a draw, I would dive more. We certainly have excellent diving options in my area. But that's well into the future.

There is probably a third party housing for this camera, from Ikelite, or Pelican, or some other company, but I haven't explored this avenue very far yet. The same additional use during other dive trips would accrue to this choice as well.

Another option would be an additional camera that has underwater capabilities built in. In this area I have noticed the SW line from Olympus, especially the 770SW and the 1030SW, both good to 10 meters, which is plenty for my intended use as a skin diving photography tool. The difference in the specs between the 770SW and the 1030SW are not entirely clear to me. I understand differences in the digital side, but the strictly optical differences, like lens specifications are beyond my current understanding.

As I compare these two models, I am thinking about making this camera available to SonofV, who would be able to use it (and abuse it). In addition to the underwater protections, the specifications indicate that it is shockproof to 2 meters, and protected against dust and freezing. These are all good features for a photographer who might be rough on the gear, or would want a tougher camera for rougher environments, like camping and hiking and backpacking. And skateboarding.

These two units cost approximately $250 and $400 each. Naturally I want to choose well. I don't consider this level of disposable income to be used on a disposable device.

Which brings me to the next option I thought of, disposable underwater cameras, film or digital. With processing, I reckon these would do the job, but for about a dollar a shot. Very expensive per photo, and I would have to really retrain myself from my current "electrons are free" state of mind behind the viewfinder. I have used these cameras before, long ago, and they're minimally acceptable, but not my first choice.

Are there any underwater photographers down here in the cellar? What have your experiences been like? Do you have any images to share? Wisdom to share? What am I missing, what should I be looking for? I don't get opportunities for trips like this very often, and I want to prepare well, so I can bring back some nice pictures.

I welcome your comments.
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 11:48 AM   #2
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Hopefully seakdiver will weigh in on this, as she has done a lot of underwater stuff.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 12:03 PM   #3
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
We lived in Hawaii for 3 years, where you guys headed? Want some suggestions of places to see?
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 12:30 PM   #4
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
I've only used the disposable film type, and they are marginal at best. Before you go that route, I suggest you dig up your old pictures and look at them. I bet your memory of the quality is a little generous. If I recall correctly, you can't shoot any closer than around 6 feet.
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:42 PM   #5
Tink
Why oh why?
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 186
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary View Post
We lived in Hawaii for 3 years, where you guys headed? Want some suggestions of places to see?
Mauna Lani close to Waikoloa. Just north of Kona. Doing the volcano park bit of course. Have a house to bunk in on the beach with snorkeling paradise at our disposal. Will visit Akaka Falls but beyond that.... I heard that Waipio Valley lookout is great. Have a book but personal experiences and suggestions always help.
Tink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:50 PM   #6
Elspode
When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Raytown, Missouri
Posts: 12,719
Where's that pesky Envy smilie?

Oh well, this will have to do...
__________________
"To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog
Elspode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 02:38 PM   #7
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tink View Post
I heard that Waipio Valley lookout is great.
The lookout is nice, or you can get a tour of the valley itself. My wife and I did the tour about 15 years ago on our honeymoon, and there was a guy who would take you down into the valley in his 4wd and then put you in his old wagon pulled by mules. It's fun. But wear your seatbelt for protection during the crash with the other tour van.
Attached Images
  
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 07:52 PM   #8
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tink View Post
Mauna Lani close to Waikoloa. Just north of Kona. Doing the volcano park bit of course. Have a house to bunk in on the beach with snorkeling paradise at our disposal. Will visit Akaka Falls but beyond that.... I heard that Waipio Valley lookout is great. Have a book but personal experiences and suggestions always help.
The black sand beach is a must, walk the lava fields but bring some really good shoes. Try to get down into where you can see the lava pouring into the ocean, esp at dusk or night, what a site. We stayed at a military camp ground near the volcano national park, another must see, and don't bring home any sample of volcano rock it is really bad luck, there are all these testimonials and letters from people who sent them back after vacations.

Hilo was cool. The Big Island is very rural. Do some on line research about the Tsunami that hit Hilo, the pics are wild. If there is any advice I could give it is get off the beaten path of the regular tourist stuff as often as possible. There are numerous ancient temples dotting the islands and people often leave an offering at them, you will see rocks and other things tied up with Tea leaves resting on the temples and sacred sites.

I could go on for hours... most of all enjoy yourselves and rest and relax in the beautiful ocean breeze and watch the sun set with some iced drinks with a little umbrella in them. Go for the Mai Tai.
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #9
Tink
Why oh why?
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 186
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary View Post
The black sand beach is a must, walk the lava fields but bring some really good shoes. Try to get down into where you can see the lava pouring into the ocean, esp at dusk or night, what a site.

There are numerous ancient temples dotting the islands and people often leave an offering at them, you will see rocks and other things tied up with Tea leaves resting on the temples and sacred sites.

I could go on for hours... most of all enjoy yourselves and rest and relax in the beautiful ocean breeze and watch the sun set with some iced drinks with a little umbrella in them. Go for the Mai Tai.
I've seen pics of the lava at night. It'll be a must I think. Have to make sure to find that particular place.

Are there signs to the temples, I would imagine? I think the kids will get a kick out of that. Shades of Annie Palmer's House in Jamaica.

Mai Tai's, absolutely. Mai Tai Mike's Tiki Hut just outside the Hilton which is across the bay.

Thanks for the hints!
Tink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2008, 02:30 PM   #10
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
FYI the hot lava flows have typically been to the East side of the volcano, you are going to be on the West side. It's about 150 miles from Kona to the lava flow that crosses Chain of Craters Road and flows to the sea. It may not be active when you are there. Several hours to drive there on the two lane road.

Google Earth coordinates for the end of the road: 19.303822, -155.083775

the lava enters the sea about 2 miles East of where the road is first buried.
Attached Images
 
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 11:33 AM   #11
HungLikeJesus
Only looks like a disaster tourist
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: above 7,000 feet
Posts: 7,208
It's interesting that the Underwater Photography thread doesn't seem to contain any underwater photography.

BigV, what housing did you end up with, and what's your impression so far?
__________________
Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn

SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.
HungLikeJesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 11:36 AM   #12
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
Thread first....pictures later.

Happy now? :p

eta: I got the one listed in the opening post, the WP-DC6.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 11:50 AM   #13
HungLikeJesus
Only looks like a disaster tourist
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: above 7,000 feet
Posts: 7,208
Two years ago I bought an underwater camera (film) that was on clearance. I was going to Puerto Vallarta and expected to do some snorkeling. I just saw that camera this morning and realized that I never used it. Maybe I should donate it to Goodwill.
__________________
Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn

SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.
HungLikeJesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:44 PM   #14
BigV
Goon Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
What make and model?

I have an oversupply of goodwill right now. Perhaps we could do business.
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not.
BigV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 02:40 PM   #15
HungLikeJesus
Only looks like a disaster tourist
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: above 7,000 feet
Posts: 7,208
I'll try to remember to look at it when I get home tonight.
__________________
Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn

SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.
HungLikeJesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.