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Old 12-03-2010, 11:03 AM   #1
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The political knifes are drawn

And President Obama has gone to Afghanistan for a 3 hr visit !

It seems that once again he is obvious to the political shenanigans going on in DC,
as they did at the start of his presidency when the town hall meetings were rioting and he went on vacation.

The top news event is the Republicans xxxx-ing (you insert verb) the political process by declaring their intention
to filibuster all legislation until their demand for the Bush tax cuts to be extended to the wealthy is met,
and denying extension of the unemployment benefits, etc.
Nothing else flows in this sewer.

As long as the highest priority for the Republican leadership is to defeat Obama in 2012, he can not afford to leave town.
He needs to understand that they don't really like him, and will do or say anything to regain power.

And yes, I voted for Obama and still support his programs.
I'm just disgusted with the tactics of the Republican leadership
and the lemming-like behavior of the rest of that party.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:06 AM   #2
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knives



it's knives



it IS knives isn't it?
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:15 AM   #3
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Yes, you're right... excess emotion leads to brain farts.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:17 AM   #4
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It's knives and it's oblivious, not obvious. I think the post had something to do with Obama too.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:24 AM   #5
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I hate this administration only a little less than the Bush administration. (only by a hair's- breadth )
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:31 AM   #6
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Ft3, ibid
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:28 AM   #7
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Different puppet, same puppetmaster, same plotline, new characters, same archetypes.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:35 AM   #8
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Same puppet master? Who would have the misfortune of being like Cheney?

or, rather, how could we have the misfortune of having another puppet master as evil as Cheney?


Tell me we don't.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:47 AM   #9
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There's a lot to hate in this administration:

If your individual income is $250K or less

Republican shenanigans cause tax cuts to expire: your taxes go up
Republican shenanigans get tax cuts for wealthy: federal debt go up
This administration's tax plan: you pay no federal income taxes

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Your individual income is more than $250K

Republican shenanigans cause tax cuts to expire: your taxes go up
Republican shenanigans get tax cuts for wealthy: federal debt go up
This administration's tax plan: you pay more federal income taxes
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:54 AM   #10
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If they're going to filibuster, they should have to do it the right way. Stand up there and talk the entire time, with no bathroom breaks!
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #11
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If they're going to filibuster, they should have to do it the right way. Stand up there and talk the entire time, with no bathroom breaks!
I thought the original tax cuts were passed using reconciliation to avoid a filibuster. The reason for the 10 year limit was that even some Republicans realized that it was a debt bomb.

Why not just use reconciliation again to extend the legislation or just write new legislation?
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:02 AM   #12
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Voice of America
Dec 4, 2010
President Obama Returns Home After Afghanistan Visit
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The president landed unannounced in Afghanistan Friday for an almost four hour visit,
days before the White House is set to release a much anticipated review of the increasingly unpopular war.
Bad weather forced the White House to cancel plansfor the president to meet
face-to-face with Afghan President Hamid Karzai in Kabul.
He instead held a phone conversation with Mr. Karzai from the air base.
Yeah sure... damn Kabul weather
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Dec 4, 2010
Senate takes up tax cut extension

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The Senate opened a rare weekend session Saturday to cast test votes on two
Democratic tax-cut measures that were widely expected to fail.

But Senate Democrats, who are eager to create a contrast with Republicans over the Bush-era tax cuts,
pushed for the doomed votes as it became clear that they would ultimately need to accept a deal
that ran contrary to their campaign promises over the last 10 years.
Obama negotiating strategy:
Give away, Compromise away, Run away... far away

He still seems to think that if he can work with the Republicans, he will be re-elected in 2012.
The only way Obama can now regain credibility on this is to veto the Republican bill.

I may end up changing my signature line to "Elections don't matter"
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:38 PM   #13
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Same puppet master? Who would have the misfortune of being like Cheney?

or, rather, how could we have the misfortune of having another puppet master as evil as Cheney?


Tell me we don't.
Cheney was another puppet, merely a foreman with a bit of skin in the game, far from the inner circle of the star chamber, I'm sure.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:59 PM   #14
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Cheney was another puppet, merely a foreman with a bit of skin in the game, far from the inner circle of the star chamber, I'm sure.

How much closer can one person have been to Bush? Not Mom-Bush.

hehehe j/k

Really, wasn't Cheney all over Bush? Maybe I watch too many Front-line reports.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:41 AM   #15
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Really, wasn't Cheney all over Bush?
Not really an issue since "Don't ask, don't tell" doesn't apply to the executive branch.
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