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Old 02-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #1
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What's the bare minimum

What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have, and how much will it cost?

Should every American have food, clothing, shelter? How about a TV, phone, heat/ac? Should we minimally have an education? If so, to what level?

How much does a household need to gross in order to provide this standard of living for itself?
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:18 AM   #2
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"What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have(?)"

The bare minimum standard of living for an individual is best determined by the individual for him- or her-self.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:26 AM   #3
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I have it on good authority that no more than one angel at a time can sit on the head of a pin. Although I can picture them sitting side by side and wrapping arms around each other, and resting one cheek each on the pin to stay there. It would require some balance and strength, but I think they could do it. So, I'm not sure I believe the one angel answer.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #4
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I'm sure angels on pinheads have all manner of woes (where and how to go poop is the one that comes to mind first).

Fortunately, for me: I'm no angel, and I don't live on a pinhead (though, often, I'm surrounded by them).
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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The bare minimum standard of living for an individual is best determined by the individual for him- or her-self.
So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:00 AM   #6
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"So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?"

No offense intended, but, that's no body's business but mine.

I'm no body's baseline...
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:22 AM   #7
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these are communist thoughts.
knock it off.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:32 AM   #8
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What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have, and how much will it cost?
Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:35 AM   #9
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these are communist thoughts.
knock it off.
I see nothing communist in the original question.

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Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.
That's what I was thinking, too ...
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:14 PM   #10
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Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.
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I see nothing communist in the original question.



That's what I was thinking, too ...
Ok, make it humans.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:24 PM   #11
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Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.
and probably cisgendered too, if we press him on it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:07 PM   #12
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We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

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Old 02-07-2012, 01:19 PM   #13
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Human beings need to be loved in order to live.
I am barely scraping by in that regard.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:44 PM   #14
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So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?
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We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?
Well, for me, personally... I would really require a tent, sleeping bags, and a steady supply of matches or cigarette lighter fuel to get me going.

Beyond that, the right to prostitute myself or otherwise perform labor in exchange for goods or money from others. The right to gather firewood in my surrounding area. The right to hunt for animals and cultivate a garden in my surrounding area. The right to drink the raw milk from my goat, and the right to occasionally kill some of her babies for meat.

The only big one I can think of that someone would have to outright give me in the beginning: safety and protection from others who might try to steal my efforts or hurt my family. If not that, then I'd have to add a gun and lots of ammo to my tent, sleeping bag, and steady supply of firestarters.
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We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

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We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?



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