rap lyric meaning

04-29-2003, 10:47 AM

What does "dart" mean in ebonics?

Elspode · 04-29-2003, 11:51 AM

Could you please provide a contextual example for those of us who are not up to speed on current lyrical trends within the Rap genre?

wolf · 04-29-2003, 11:53 AM

Context please?? Also line before and after line of text in question (or more if you think that it will help us out here).

(Amazing. Someone asking US what something means in ebonics. Wait ... syc, you're bilingual, aren't you? but you only speak the Stloo dialect...)

04-29-2003, 12:30 PM

"twist darts from the heart, tried and true
Loop my voice on the LP, martini on the slang rocks"

Jakeline · 04-29-2003, 12:55 PM

Just to clarify a little more, it's a Wu-Tang song called Triumph. I'm not big into Wu-Tang (Dr. Dre is more my thing), but here's what I found in the way of lyrics:

~~~
I twist darts from the heart, tried and true
Loop my voice on the LP, martini on the slang rocks
Certified chatterbox, vocabulary 'Donna talkin
Tell your story walkin
Take cover kid, what? Run for your brother, kid
Run for your team, and your six camp rhyme groupies
So I can squeeze with the advantage, and get wasted
My deadly notes reigns supreme
Your fort is basic compared to mine
Domino effect, arts and crafts
Paragraphs contain cyanide
Take a free ride on my dart, I got the fashion
catalogues for all y'all to all praise to the Gods
~~~

I also found a Rap Dictionary at www.rapdict.org, and they have no mention of the term darts, twisted or not. But in this case, I think that twisting darts is pretty literal... throwing darts.

Elspode · 04-29-2003, 01:12 PM

I would interpret the whole verse as being something of a challenge to other rappers, with the "darts" being specific words or phrases intended to convey extreme poignancy or impact.

Syc, could you please put all that into a more Rapcentric format for me?

wolf · 04-29-2003, 01:15 PM

I would concur that in this instance the author is intending to convey the both the sharpness of his words as well as that the words are expressed with all sincerity ... thus the "darts from the heart" imagery.

perth · 04-29-2003, 01:24 PM

shakespeare referred to words as darts on at least one occasion, if i remember right. i might be thinking of the mention of 'paper bullets' in 'much ado about nothing'.

ill check.

~james

Cam · 04-29-2003, 01:29 PM

Which member of Wu-tang did that verse, sometimes that makes it easier to search for it. I havn't looked yet but will when I'm done with class at 3:30

perth · 04-29-2003, 01:31 PM

it seems, after looking through his complete works, shakespeare did not refer to words as darts. oops. although im not sure that link includes sonnets, etc.

~james

edit: sonnets are included. im an idiot.

tweek · 05-04-2003, 12:36 AM

"Twist a dart" means roll a joint, basically. It also means "say something in a pointed manner."

wolf · 05-04-2003, 12:45 AM

What can I say. I'm melanin-challenged.

perth · 05-04-2003, 10:20 AM

well, thats what i get for liking sinatra and the pogues. i still like the idea that it means words, but the weed reference is good too. not sure which is more poetic.

~james

elSicomoro · 05-04-2003, 11:22 AM

Shit...I completely missed this thread initially...sorry folks.

Wolf, though I am from the Loo, my rap lingo is a mix of the various styles that existed previous to the Loo explosion (primarily NYC, West Coast, and ATL). Nelly and the St. Lunatics did not blow up until after I left town...I had only heard of them while living there; never heard anything from them.

04-29-2003, 10:47 AM	#1
danzini18 Guest Posts: n/a	rap lyric meaning What does "dart" mean in ebonics?

04-29-2003, 11:51 AM	#2
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Could you please provide a contextual example for those of us who are not up to speed on current lyrical trends within the Rap genre? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

04-29-2003, 11:53 AM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Context please?? Also line before and after line of text in question (or more if you think that it will help us out here). (Amazing. Someone asking US what something means in ebonics. Wait ... syc, you're bilingual, aren't you? but you only speak the Stloo dialect...) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2003, 12:30 PM	#4
danzini18 Guest Posts: n/a	clarification "twist darts from the heart, tried and true Loop my voice on the LP, martini on the slang rocks"

04-29-2003, 01:12 PM	#6
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I would interpret the whole verse as being something of a challenge to other rappers, with the "darts" being specific words or phrases intended to convey extreme poignancy or impact. Syc, could you please put all that into a more Rapcentric format for me? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

04-29-2003, 12:55 PM	#5
Jakeline Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 54	Just to clarify a little more, it's a Wu-Tang song called Triumph. I'm not big into Wu-Tang (Dr. Dre is more my thing), but here's what I found in the way of lyrics: ~~~ I twist darts from the heart, tried and true Loop my voice on the LP, martini on the slang rocks Certified chatterbox, vocabulary 'Donna talkin Tell your story walkin Take cover kid, what? Run for your brother, kid Run for your team, and your six camp rhyme groupies So I can squeeze with the advantage, and get wasted My deadly notes reigns supreme Your fort is basic compared to mine Domino effect, arts and crafts Paragraphs contain cyanide Take a free ride on my dart, I got the fashion catalogues for all y'all to all praise to the Gods ~~~ I also found a Rap Dictionary at www.rapdict.org, and they have no mention of the term darts, twisted or not. But in this case, I think that twisting darts is pretty literal... throwing darts.

04-29-2003, 01:15 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I would concur that in this instance the author is intending to convey the both the sharpness of his words as well as that the words are expressed with all sincerity ... thus the "darts from the heart" imagery. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-29-2003, 01:24 PM	#8
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	shakespeare referred to words as darts on at least one occasion, if i remember right. i might be thinking of the mention of 'paper bullets' in 'much ado about nothing'. ill check. ~james

04-29-2003, 01:29 PM	#9
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	Which member of Wu-tang did that verse, sometimes that makes it easier to search for it. I havn't looked yet but will when I'm done with class at 3:30 __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

04-29-2003, 01:31 PM	#10
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	it seems, after looking through his complete works, shakespeare did not refer to words as darts. oops. although im not sure that link includes sonnets, etc. ~james edit: sonnets are included. im an idiot.

05-04-2003, 12:36 AM	#11
tweek Disorderly Disciplinarian Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 21	Heheheh you rap virgins "Twist a dart" means roll a joint, basically. It also means "say something in a pointed manner."

05-04-2003, 12:45 AM	#12
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	What can I say. I'm melanin-challenged.

05-04-2003, 10:20 AM	#13
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	well, thats what i get for liking sinatra and the pogues. i still like the idea that it means words, but the weed reference is good too. not sure which is more poetic. ~james

05-04-2003, 11:22 AM	#14
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Shit...I completely missed this thread initially...sorry folks. Wolf, though I am from the Loo, my rap lingo is a mix of the various styles that existed previous to the Loo explosion (primarily NYC, West Coast, and ATL). Nelly and the St. Lunatics did not blow up until after I left town...I had only heard of them while living there; never heard anything from them.

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