United States "Free Speech" Zones

hot_pastrami · 09-22-2003, 04:14 PM

I had no idea that "Free Speech" zones existed in the U.S. Apprently the U.S. Constitution is a localized phenomenon now. Protesters, peaceful or otherwise, are threatened with arrest if they fail to contain themselves within a chainlinked "Free Speech" zone when the President, or other Superior Humans, are in the vicinity. Naturally, the supporters of applicable Superior Human are allowed much more freedom.

Luckily, some individuals are fighting the oppression, and winning to a degree. But it's pretty scary to watch the People in Power try to wipe their ass with the Constitution.

SteveDallas · 09-22-2003, 05:36 PM

What's the problem? Surely you don't quibble with the concept of increased security for the President. The first amendment right of free speech and protest doesn't require that any body actually LISTEN to the protest.

Next you're gonna tell me you object to the Ashcroft Amendment making evangelical Christianity the official religion of the US government.

hot_pastrami · 09-22-2003, 05:37 PM

Oh, I also object to the Ashcroft Amendment making evangelical Christianity the official religion of the US government.

Nathan Barnes · 09-22-2003, 06:02 PM

Sir, would you please step inside the free speech zone to say that sort of thing?

xoxoxoBruce · 09-22-2003, 07:37 PM

Quote:

What's the problem? Surely you don't quibble with the concept of increased security for the President. The first amendment right of free speech and protest doesn't require that any body actually LISTEN to the protest.

I guess it really doesn't matter if they get near the Prez because they're not going to change his mind anyway. What's important is they get near the press.

russotto · 09-23-2003, 02:56 PM

Hey, when you've got a government which wants to build a 14-foot high double-walled pipe-topped concrete fence with automatic machine guns in the middle around Independence Hall, you KNOW the Constitution is a localized phenomenon.

(OK, it's an 8-foot high iron fence and not the Berlin wall, but the principle is the same)

Happy Monkey · 07-08-2004, 02:51 PM

From this post, a few more instances:

West Virginia
Wisconsin
Florida

Radar · 07-08-2004, 03:04 PM

Let's see, if I'm a terrorist, and they are allowing the people holding pro-Bush signs near Bush but locking away the anti-Bush people in a cage a half a mile away, which sign would I hold? I guess it stands to reason that those holding pro-Bush signs must be terrorists.

Here's a nice little story for you.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable

07-08-2004, 05:57 PM

This reminds me of an incident that occurred in my town a year or two back. A group of middle-aged Catholic nuns had organized a peace demonstration near an air force base on the outskirts of town. Its all prairie out there without alot of discernable landmarks. The nuns were arrested because they were holding hands and saying a prayer and they stepped over the invisible line onto the air force base. The judge at their trial tried to punish them by ordering them to commit community service. One of the nun's stood up in court and demanded that if she were to be "punished" that she wanted to be sent to jail. She argued that community service was not only part of her vocation, but that community service should be viewed as an honor, not a punishment. She said that to accept community service as a punishment made a mockery of her life time devotion to bettering the lives of those around her. She had a good point.

busterb · 07-08-2004, 06:20 PM

Dotty's view of the big deal over VP.

Cyber Wolf · 07-09-2004, 07:24 AM

Dotty makes a good point too

09-22-2003, 04:14 PM	#1
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	United States "Free Speech" Zones I had no idea that "Free Speech" zones existed in the U.S. Apprently the U.S. Constitution is a localized phenomenon now. Protesters, peaceful or otherwise, are threatened with arrest if they fail to contain themselves within a chainlinked "Free Speech" zone when the President, or other Superior Humans, are in the vicinity. Naturally, the supporters of applicable Superior Human are allowed much more freedom. Luckily, some individuals are fighting the oppression, and winning to a degree. But it's pretty scary to watch the People in Power try to wipe their ass with the Constitution. __________________ Hot Pastrami!

09-22-2003, 05:37 PM	#3
hot_pastrami I am meaty Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,119	Oh, I also object to the Ashcroft Amendment making evangelical Christianity the official religion of the US government. __________________ Hot Pastrami!

07-08-2004, 02:51 PM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	The insanity continues From this post, a few more instances: West Virginia Wisconsin Florida __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-08-2004, 03:04 PM	#8
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Let's see, if I'm a terrorist, and they are allowing the people holding pro-Bush signs near Bush but locking away the anti-Bush people in a cage a half a mile away, which sign would I hold? I guess it stands to reason that those holding pro-Bush signs must be terrorists. Here's a nice little story for you. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

07-08-2004, 06:20 PM	#10
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Dotty's view of the big deal over VP. Attached Images __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

09-22-2003, 05:36 PM	#2
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	What's the problem? Surely you don't quibble with the concept of increased security for the President. The first amendment right of free speech and protest doesn't require that any body actually LISTEN to the protest. Next you're gonna tell me you object to the Ashcroft Amendment making evangelical Christianity the official religion of the US government.

09-22-2003, 06:02 PM	#4
Nathan Barnes Alphabetarian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	Sir, would you please step inside the free speech zone to say that sort of thing?

09-23-2003, 02:56 PM	#6
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Hey, when you've got a government which wants to build a 14-foot high double-walled pipe-topped concrete fence with automatic machine guns in the middle around Independence Hall, you KNOW the Constitution is a localized phenomenon. (OK, it's an 8-foot high iron fence and not the Berlin wall, but the principle is the same)

07-08-2004, 05:57 PM	#9
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	This reminds me of an incident that occurred in my town a year or two back. A group of middle-aged Catholic nuns had organized a peace demonstration near an air force base on the outskirts of town. Its all prairie out there without alot of discernable landmarks. The nuns were arrested because they were holding hands and saying a prayer and they stepped over the invisible line onto the air force base. The judge at their trial tried to punish them by ordering them to commit community service. One of the nun's stood up in court and demanded that if she were to be "punished" that she wanted to be sent to jail. She argued that community service was not only part of her vocation, but that community service should be viewed as an honor, not a punishment. She said that to accept community service as a punishment made a mockery of her life time devotion to bettering the lives of those around her. She had a good point.

07-09-2004, 07:24 AM	#11
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Dotty makes a good point too __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

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