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View Poll Results: Have you studied philosophy?
Yes, formally, liked it 9 47.37%
Yes, informally, liked it 5 26.32%
Yes, formally, disliked it 3 15.79%
Yes, informally, disliked it 0 0%
Yes, formally, indifferent 2 10.53%
Yes, informally, indifferent 0 0%
No 3 15.79%
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Old 05-04-2004, 11:22 AM   #1
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Who here has studied philosophy?

Ok, the death penalty debate raised a questionin my mind.

Has anyone here actually studied philosophy?

Kant, Hobbes, Plato, Aristotle, St. Augustine, Hume, Bentham, Satre, McTaggart, etc.?

The list is by no means exhaustive.

Who have you studied?
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:04 PM   #2
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spent alot of time on Kant, Barth, and Moreland

Most of my work is in philosophy of religion and ethics.

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Old 05-04-2004, 12:07 PM   #3
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spent alot of time on Kant, Barth, and Moreland

Most of my work is in philosophy of religion and ethics.

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Have you checked out Shermer's The Science of Good and Evil yet?
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:13 PM   #4
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Haven’t read it, but saw a series of debates between shermer and doug geivett. Shermer has a tendency to ignore your actual argument, and rail against what he thinks you said. Geivett built a very convincing kalam cosmological argument, and shermer tried to argue as if he was trotting out Aquinas for another round. Either not very bright, or not very intellectually honest, regardless of what you think about the final conclusion.

Straw man defense.

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edit: sorry, i should say, he wasn't arguing in a very bright way. I'm sure he's an intelligent man. i'll have to check out the series.

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Old 05-04-2004, 12:13 PM   #5
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Re: Who here has studied philosophy?

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Has anyone here actually studied philosophy?

Kant, Hobbes, Plato, Aristotle, St. Augustine, Hume, Bentham, Satre, McTaggart, etc.?

Who have you studied?

Yes.

In the context of all four Ideas In Conflict in the honors curriculum, plus Ethics. That's enough philosophy for me. We went through Plato, Aristotle, St. Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Machiavelli, Locke, Nietzsche, Freud, Martin Luther King, Kant, Hobbes, Hume, Bentham, Satre, Rousseau, and Heisenberg. The courses covered Ancient, Classical, Medieval, Renaissance, the Enlightenment, the Romantic, and the Twentieth- and Twenty-first Century philosophers.....

Poor Jean-Jaques....

Dammit, now I have the Philosopher's Song stuck in my head!!

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Old 05-04-2004, 12:17 PM   #6
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Studied quite a few in various different contexts( some formal some not)...Loved some of the ancient greek but mainly because of the historical context....Favourites though, I think would have to be Nietzsche and Karl Marx
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:20 PM   #7
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Loved some of the ancient greek but mainly because of the historical context....Favourites though, I think would have to be Nietzsche and Karl Marx
Color me so not surprised.
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:27 PM   #8
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Neett-che4e'sses (sp?) essay, "On Truth and Lies in a Non-Moral sense" is an interesting read. I find some of his thinking a little muddled on the concepts of eternity and being. I know he's standing at the edge of existentialism, but there are some threads that hang pretty loose at the edges.

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Old 05-04-2004, 12:37 PM   #9
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i did my best to squeeze in as mucy as i could in school, but admittedly my grasp on anything beyond kant is lacking, philosophy beyond that time period didn't interest me, except for philosophy of science. i was initially drawn to the greek philosophers as a matter of personal taste, but as time went on i took to studying the chronological progression of philosophy and the historical/sociological context of each thinker. man that reminds me i have a lot of reading to do.
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:41 PM   #10
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Dammit, now I have the Philosopher's Song stuck in my head!!
Well great..thanks for sharing, now we ALL have the philosopher's song running through our heads!

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Neett-che4e'sses (sp?) essay, "On Truth and Lies in a Non-Moral sense" is an interesting read. I find some of his thinking a little muddled on the concepts of eternity and being. I know he's standing at the edge of existentialism, but there are some threads that hang pretty loose at the edges.
Ya....kinda fun though
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:28 PM   #11
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"Well great..thanks for sharing, now we ALL have the philosopher's song running through our heads!"


....sorry....It's one of my favorite Monty Python songs...just not ALL DAY LONG....


For those of you who have absolutely NO idea what we're talking about:

IIIIIIImmanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates himself was permanently pissed

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
With half a pint of shandy got particularly ill
Plato, they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle
Hobbes was fond of his dram
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart
"I drink therefore I am"

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed

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Old 05-04-2004, 02:33 PM   #12
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i did my best to squeeze in as mucy as i could in school, but admittedly my grasp on anything beyond kant is lacking,
you had a grasp on Kant!!!! Dude, you're a f*&ing genius. Nobody really reads Kant, they just read people's critique of Kant. The ones who actually do read it end up addle-headed and shiftless, working as surrogate breast-feeders for the rest of their known lives.

which is hard to do with only one nipple. And no experience.

And, you know, a penis.

Am I drunk?

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Old 05-04-2004, 03:03 PM   #13
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Informally, mostly to keep up with my peers at the time, read a fair bit of Satre, Plato, some nietzsche, bits and bobs here and there.

Now I've got ~5000 pages of data and reports littering my desk instead =(
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Old 05-04-2004, 03:30 PM   #14
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Informally. I read some of Nietzche's books because I had liked his quotes for so long that I thought that I may as well read the rest.

I tried and failed to read an Lucretus' poetry version of Epicurean writings - I may have been reading the wrong segment.

I decided to stop reading philosophy for a while since I wasn't putting enough of it into practice.

Solzhenitsyn may not have primarily been a philosopher, but his advice on how to live is my favorite of all that I've run across.

...and I've read Sartre and Camus and bits of others.

All philosophy written since Kant was written out of the author's hatred of Kant -- Nietzche
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Old 05-04-2004, 04:03 PM   #15
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Me:

PHI 101 Intro (B)
PHI 201 Logic (A)
PHI 203 Ethics (C) (asshole prof wouldn't take bribes)

As well as
MAT 207 Fundamentals of Math (C)
which was PHI 201 in math
And
FRE 213 French Existentialist Writers (B)
which was a way to take something really cool instead of another class in stinking French

As Woody Allen once said, I cheated on my metaphysics final... I looked into the soul of the person sitting next to me.
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