The Rules of the Game

smoothmoniker · 07-21-2004, 07:18 PM

Given the healthy ration of hack philosophy flying around the net these days, I thought it might be a good idea to review the rules of the game.

We may not agree on the outcome, but the level of debate would rise dramatically if people would spend at least a moment reviewing how to avoid bad arguments, and how to support good ones.

-sm

xoxoxoBruce · 07-22-2004, 07:43 PM

Party pooper.

smoothmoniker · 07-22-2004, 08:00 PM

see, now I can call that an ad hominem attack and everyone will know the actual meaning of the phrase! how helpful is that!

-sm

lookout123 · 07-22-2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

see, now I can call that an ad hominem attack and everyone will know the actual meaning of the phrase! how helpful is that!

-sm

i don't understand. isn't ad hominem a word that means the same thing as another word?

Happy Monkey · 07-23-2004, 06:58 AM

That's homonym.

Ad hominem

oops - didn't see your wink.

jaguar · 07-23-2004, 07:15 AM

an ad homonym attack would rather amusing indeed.

Most of this stuff is just basic logic, that said, it'd still be worth some people reading

DanaC · 07-23-2004, 10:58 AM

My usual arguing technique is reductio ad absurdum. I seem to recall getting accused of putting words into people's mouths more than once with that one ;P

lookout123 · 07-23-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

That's homonym.

Ad hominem

oops - didn't see your wink.

i'm not sure if i should be insulted or not that you, even for an instant, thought i was that stupid...

and i think it is really a synonym.

jaguar · 07-23-2004, 11:48 AM

homonym is when they sound the same, synonym is when they mean the same.

lookout123 · 07-23-2004, 11:53 AM

yep, uh-huh, what he said. it is so hard sometimes to read a post and decide whether it was typed with sarcasm or not.

smoothmoniker · 07-23-2004, 12:04 PM

also, everyone should probably read this as a contrary example.

-sm

Happy Monkey · 07-23-2004, 12:08 PM

jaguar · 07-23-2004, 12:37 PM

sorry, couldn't help it.

dar512 · 07-23-2004, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123

yep, uh-huh, what he said. it is so hard sometimes to read a post and decide whether it was typed with sarcasm or not.

Which is why god invented smilies.

lookout123 · 07-23-2004, 01:09 PM

are we back to referring to UT as god, again? why didn't anyone send me the *$@*ing memo?!?!?!

07-21-2004, 07:18 PM	#1
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,088	The Rules of the Game Given the healthy ration of hack philosophy flying around the net these days, I thought it might be a good idea to review the rules of the game. We may not agree on the outcome, but the level of debate would rise dramatically if people would spend at least a moment reviewing how to avoid bad arguments, and how to support good ones. -sm

07-22-2004, 07:43 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 41,937	Party pooper. __________________ Everything is interesting... look closer.

07-23-2004, 06:58 AM	#5
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 10,895	That's homonym. Ad hominem oops - didn't see your wink. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| That's right! I cut my hand off!!! What do you \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| say to THAT, you bubble-talking HYPOCRITE?!? \|_______________\| [homepage][pics]

07-23-2004, 07:15 AM	#6
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	an ad homonym attack would rather amusing indeed. Most of this stuff is just basic logic, that said, it'd still be worth some people reading __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-23-2004, 11:48 AM	#9
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	homonym is when they sound the same, synonym is when they mean the same. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-22-2004, 08:00 PM	#3
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,088	see, now I can call that an ad hominem attack and everyone will know the actual meaning of the phrase! how helpful is that! -sm

07-23-2004, 10:58 AM	#7
DanaC Shipwrecked and comatose Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 20,151	My usual arguing technique is reductio ad absurdum. I seem to recall getting accused of putting words into people's mouths more than once with that one ;P

07-23-2004, 11:53 AM	#10
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,300	yep, uh-huh, what he said. it is so hard sometimes to read a post and decide whether it was typed with sarcasm or not. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-23-2004, 12:04 PM	#11
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,088	also, everyone should probably read this as a contrary example. -sm

07-23-2004, 12:08 PM	#12
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 10,895	__________________ _________________ \|...............\| That's right! I cut my hand off!!! What do you \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| say to THAT, you bubble-talking HYPOCRITE?!? \|_______________\| [homepage][pics]

07-23-2004, 12:37 PM	#13
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	sorry, couldn't help it. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-23-2004, 01:09 PM	#15
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,300	are we back to referring to UT as god, again? why didn't anyone send me the $@ing memo?!?!?! __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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