They really do make 'em crazy in AZ

[lookout123]

garnet - i don't know or particularly care what mel gibson's politics are, i started this thread because i found the article humorous.

i find it telling that because an individual has been in the news for his stated religious convictions the first and only thing you can point out is that he will probably infringe upon your right to choose. you didn't take the time to think that maybe he finds abortion morally abhorrent but doesn't believe it is an issue for legislation. sort of like John Kerry and many christians.

like i said, i don't know or care about what gibson would do if somehow he were magically made POTUS, i just think it's interesting to see where your thought process takes you.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by lookout123

garnet - i don't know or particularly care what mel gibson's politics are, i started this thread because i found the article humorous.

Lookout--

Almost every single article you post is from various right-slanted websites about politics. You always claim you post them because they're "humorous" or "interesting," yet they always turn into some form of political debate and/or discussion on this forum. I'm sure you expect that by now.

If you post an article about Mel Gibson possibly running for office, people are going to want to discuss his politics--which may include his stance on abortion. Nobody's just going to sit there and pat you on the back for posting a "funny" article.

You are obviously pretty far right on most political issues. In case you haven't noticed, I'm not. If you don't want people disagreeing with your acceptance of these articles you post, perhaps you shouldn't post them at all.

[Troubleshooter]

What I've read so far of the Mel Gibson religion thing is that the church he belongs to is called First Family. It seems that their greatest divergence from Catholicism came with them refusing to follow Vatican II(tm).

And his dad is nuts.

YMMV

Edit:

If he can be as strongly religious in his personal life as we are led to believe and still make the movies, taken as a whole, that he makes then I'm thinking that he could probably do the same thing in office.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by garnet

If you post an article about Mel Gibson possibly running for office, people are going to want to discuss his politics--which may include his stance on abortion. Nobody's just going to sit there and pat you on the back for posting a "funny" article.

no i posted an article about a nutjob dentist who lives near me wanting everyone to write mel gibson in as their vote for president. as far as i know mel gibson has nothing whatsoever to do with this.

and as i said before, you have the right to disagree with anyone you want. i pointed out that you saw "mel gibson, president" in the same sentence and immediately jumped upon the "oh shit, he's a catholic or christian and therefore he MUST want to take away my right to choose." it just illustrates your reactionary nature that you brought to the table in other threads.

Almost every single article you post is from various right-slanted websites about politics.

yep, and as i have said before some are just to effing funny not to post. they highlight the caricature nature of some of the people involved. if you take the time to notice, the serious articles that i post are generally pulled from fairly balanced sources. most recently i have been pulling a bit from the economist. how right leaning is that?

i seriously cannot believe that this article turned into a freaking abortion debate. FWIW - i believe abortion is murder. i also believe you should retain the right to murder your unborn child until the strong majority of americans decide it must be stopped. since that will never happen, enjoy your right to choose. i find this to be consistant with my support of assisted suicide and the death penalty.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by lookout123

no i posted an article about a nutjob dentist who lives near me wanting everyone to write mel gibson in as their vote for president. as far as i know mel gibson has nothing whatsoever to do with this.

HUH? the article wasn't about the dentist--it was about Mel Gibson! Not one single person has commented on the dentist--you knew exactly where this thread would end up when you posted it. You weren't looking for comments on the "nutjob" dentist. Get real.

Originally Posted by lookout123

oh shit, he's a catholic or christian and therefore he MUST want to take away my right to choose."

Because most of the religious nuts in office immediately want to outlaw abortion. Yup, that's the first conclusion I came to because THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE USUALLY DO. As someone who is concerned about losing the right to choose because of our current administration, I think it is natural to come to that conclusion.

Originally Posted by lookout123

it just illustrates your reactionary nature that you brought to the table in other threads.

Ahhh, so were back to personal insults. How refreshing.

Originally Posted by lookout123

yep, and as i have said before some are just to effing funny not to post. they highlight the caricature nature of some of the people involved.

I guess I have no sense of humor, but I don't get how the article you posted is so outrageously funny. The same goes for your Alice Cooper thread, which was pulled from exactly the same right-wing website. These threads ALWAYS turn into political debates, and you know it. So 'fess up--you post this stuff to get a rise out of people--you don't do it just to get a laugh. If you're just looking to make us all chuckle, perhaps you should post some JOKES instead.

Originally Posted by lookout123

if you take the time to notice, the serious articles that i post are generally pulled from fairly balanced sources. most recently i have been pulling a bit from the economist. how right leaning is that?

You may have pulled "a bit" from the Economist, but most of the stuff you post is from WorldNetDaily (one of the most extreme right-wing websites out there), and Fox. Every political article you post is pro-Republican and pro-Bush--including the stuff you posted from the Economist.

Originally Posted by lookout123

FWIW - i believe abortion is murder. i also believe you should retain the right to murder your unborn child until the strong majority of americans decide it must be stopped. since that will never happen, enjoy your right to choose. i find this to be consistant with my support of assisted suicide and the death penalty.

Good for you. Isn't it great we live in a country where we can disagree about this stuff?

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by garnet

HUH? the article wasn't about the dentist--it was about Mel Gibson! Not one single person has commented on the dentist--you knew exactly where this thread would end up when you posted it. You weren't looking for comments on the "nutjob" dentist. Get real.

no, the article was about a dentist in arizona who doesn't like the current candidates and thinks that mel gibson's characters in movies like Braveheart and The Patriot qualify him for the office. again, the dentist is nucking futs.

and let's refer back to my original comment with the link

If you still aren't sure who to vote for, here is another option. This isn't serious politics so i decided to put it here in Home Base. An Arizona dentist wants you to write in your vote on Nov 2.

Because most of the religious nuts in office immediately want to outlaw abortion. Yup, that's the first conclusion I came to because THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE USUALLY DO. As someone who is concerned about losing the right to choose because of our current administration, I think it is natural to come to that conclusion.

religious nuts? how very fair and objective of you.

I guess I have no sense of humor, but I don't get how the article you posted is so outrageously funny. The same goes for your Alice Cooper thread, which was pulled from exactly the same right-wing website.

i still think the former king of shock rock talking about rockers being treasonous to rock and roll, by siding with mainstream politicians is pretty funny.

. So 'fess up--you post this stuff to get a rise out of people--you don't do it just to get a laugh. If you're just looking to make us all chuckle, perhaps you should post some JOKES instead.

if you get all riled up by it, then that is your issue. in a way if it sparked conversation here then that is good. and BTW look in the humor thread, i DO post a lot of jokes.

You may have pulled "a bit" from the Economist, but most of the stuff you post is from WorldNetDaily (one of the most extreme right-wing websites out there), and Fox. Every political article you post is pro-Republican and pro-Bush--including the stuff you posted from the Economist.

ok, here are the number of sources i've linked to in threads i've started in the last month or so.
Fox 3 (2 being AP stories)
Economist 2
CNN 2
WND 2 (1 about alice cooper, 1 about a crazy dentist)
suntimes 1
editor and publisher 1
techcentralstation 1
reuters 1

i am not a bush fan but i do support him over kerry so it kind of makes sense that i would post articles about him doesn't it? i think there are very few people in the cellar who are fans of either candidate. you wouldn't expect happy monkey to post links to pro-bush articles would you? as far as being pro-Republican, get off the effing bus sister, i am not an R.

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Originally Posted by lookout123
it just illustrates your reactionary nature that you brought to the table in other threads.


Ahhh, so were back to personal insults. How refreshing.

what else would you call your comments at the beginning of this thread? you see an article about nutjob dentist. it mentions mel gibson and president you flip out and take us down the path of mel gibson wanting to take away your right to choose. is that what you consider calm and rational?

[garnet]

Originally Posted by lookout123

what else would you call your comments at the beginning of this thread? you see an article about nutjob dentist.

"Nutjob" dentist? How fair and objective of you.

Originally Posted by lookout123

it mentions mel gibson and president you flip out and take us down the path of mel gibson wanting to take away your right to choose. is that what you consider calm and rational?

Easy tiger. You flipped out as soon as I brought up abortion--I've remained perfectly calm. You've gone back to the the old routine of "lets personally insult garnet" because she disagrees ZZZZZZZZZZZZ. B-O-R-I-N-G. I've heard it all before, honey.

BTW, it's TOTALLY obvious that your indeed are a right-winger and just don't want to admit it. Everything you say leans that way, and you know it. Hey, it's OK to admit your beliefs--it's a free country. Just don't be dishonest about and hide behind supposedly posting something because it's "funny" or whatever. It's really, really obvious what you're doing.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by garnet

"Nutjob" dentist? How fair and rational of you.



Easy tiger. You flipped out as soon as I brought up abortion--I've remained perfectly calm. You've gone back to the the old routine of "lets personally insult garnet" because she disagrees ZZZZZZZZZZZZ. B-O-R-I-N-G. I've heard it all before, honey.

BTW, it's TOTALLY obvious that your indeed are a right-winger and just don't want to admit it. Everything you say leans that way, and you know it. Hey, it's OK to admit your beliefs--it's a free country. Just don't be dishonest about and hide behind supposedly posting something because it's "funny" or whatever. It's really, really obvious what you're doing.

where did i insult you? if you go back and reread this thread you will see that there may have been some misunderstanding - i didn't get upset at all. i simply pointed out that it was pretty silly for you to go from point A) a story about a dentist, to point B) mel gibson wants to take away your right to choose.

and i think i have made it perfectly clear that i do lean to the right. I believe the 2 party system is BS but i am not into the LP so i remain independent and vote for the individuals that i think will do the best job. get this - once that was even bill clinton OMG! but please, if it is obvious that i am a right-winger, point out to me exactly which of my beliefs makes me a right-winger and while we're at it let's pick apart my beliefs and educate me as to why they are wrong.

i don't hide behind anything garnet, never have, never will. i've got nothing to lose, so why bother hiding? when i think something is funny i say so. if you don't find it funny that's ok. but don't pretend to know what i think or what i find funny.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by garnet

"BTW, it's TOTALLY obvious that your indeed are a right-winger and just don't want to admit it.

Not all people on the right are registered as Republicans. You threw the word "republican" at him like it was an insult.