Do You Own a Gun?

[Radar]

Originally Posted by zippyt

if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that.

Thus the need for a gun to defend your self and your stuff .

And so the conversation comes full circle and proves not only the RIGHT for individuals to own any weapon we choose, but also describes the necessity.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

And so the conversation comes full circle and proves not only the RIGHT for individuals to own any weapon we choose, but also describes the necessity.

Not really. The description is hypothetical...if the situation were a given, then it could be said that owning a weapon is a necessity.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Not really. The description is hypothetical...if the situation were a given, then it could be said that owning a weapon is a necessity.

Are you saying it isn't? For me owning a gun IS a necessity. In fact my owning of a gun is a necessity even for those who choose not to own a gun themselves. Private gun ownership makes everyone safer, including those who don't own guns.

[xoxoxoBruce]

No, no... guns are evil. The tools of Satan to kill babies and puppies.
Save yourself before they seize your soul.
Mail all your guns to me.
Do it now... for the children.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, no... guns are evil. The tools of Satan to kill babies and puppies.
Save yourself before they seize your soul.
Mail all your guns to me.
Do it now... for the children.

I'll take a few more but I will have to buy a bigger safe. Please send the ammo that goes with the guns so I don't have to buy anymore. Thanks.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

Are you saying it isn't? For me owning a gun IS a necessity. In fact my owning of a gun is a necessity even for those who choose not to own a gun themselves. Private gun ownership makes everyone safer, including those who don't own guns.

Yes, I am saying it isn't--for me. And it's fine with me if you think that owning a gun is a necessity for you, as long as you're a responsible gun owner.

I don't agree that private gun ownership makes everyone safer. It only makes others safer if, for instance, a gun owner happens to successfully intervene if non-owners are being threatened. It makes others unsafe if, say, that gun owner's kid or angry spouse happens to shoot bullets through the wall.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yes, I am saying it isn't--for me. And it's fine with me if you think that owning a gun is a necessity for you, as long as you're a responsible gun owner.

I don't agree that private gun ownership makes everyone safer. It only makes others safer if, for instance, a gun owner happens to successfully intervene if non-owners are being threatened. It makes others unsafe if, say, that gun owner's kid or angry spouse happens to shoot bullets through the wall.

Actually it makes everyone safer, even when gun owners don't intervene. When criminals don't know who has guns or who doesn't it makes them less likely to commit crimes.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

Actually it makes everyone safer, even when gun owners don't intervene. When criminals don't know who has guns or who doesn't it makes them less likely to commit crimes.

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

[xoxoxoBruce]

There is where there are concealed carry laws. That's been proven in every state that has enacted them.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

You are welcome to post a sign on the front of your house indicating your distate for firearms and that you are weapon-free and see how you fare against a non-posted house.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

Really? Perhaps you can tell me why in 100% of the states that have allowed concealed permits to be obtained by regular people (non-cops) crime has decreased dramatically?