What would a viable third party look like?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Griff

Foreign Policy- isolationist

Individual freedoms-keep your hands off my

Taxation- low but balance the budget

Abortion- none of my business

Samesex marriage-groovy/in the eyes of the government its just a contract

Welfare- none for corporations, regular folks safety net but if you screw the pooch you are gonna get cut loose.

States' right vs federal rights- move the power down toward the peeps. No unfunded mandates.

A viable third party would take control locally first, county governments on down, to prove they can do the job.

I'd like to nominate Griff for presidential candidate of the ... What do we call this third party?

The Moderate Party?
The Middle of the Road Party?

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'd like to nominate Griff for presidential candidate of the ... What do we call this third party?

The Moderate Party?
The Middle of the Road Party?

The Grifftopian Griffins (oh, that's the name of the high school.)

How about: The party that makes some damn sense? :p

[Spexxvet]

Griffindor?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'd like to nominate Griff for presidential candidate of the ... What do we call this third party?

The Moderate Party?
The Middle of the Road Party?

The (IMRP) Immoderate Middle of the Road Party?

[warch]

Hmmm. Hagel?

[xoxoxoBruce]

A Swiss Army Knife.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Salvador Dali

A Swiss Army Knife.

The biggest problem with the Libertarian Party is local chapters tend to be VERY different.
Each having their own ax to grind.
I have had on-line discussions with party reps from the North West, East and South that all sound like they are from totally different political backgrounds. Each wavering FAR from Libertarian core beliefs.
Something that the other parties are more strict about. A Democrat who is against a core Democratic Party belief just does not get the backing of the party.
The Libertarian party is made up of strong individualistic people and we admire that in others and our candidates. Makes this a real problem with this particular issue. Makes us look inconsistent, which is not, entirely, inaccurate.
IMO, it is one of our strengths. However, it also causes issues with winning over those on the fence from other parties.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

..but when they want to get re-elected, they crow about how much money they bring to their constituency. I guess people who vote repubican don't wonder where that money comes from.

How are the Demoncrats any different?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

repubicans are funny, and not in the ha ha way. Their party position is less government spending and lower taxes, but when they want to get re-elected, they crow about how much money they bring to their constituency. I guess people who vote repubican don't wonder where that money comes from.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

How are the Demoncrats any different?

Read and quote the whole thing, or aren't you ethically inclined to do that (typical conservative - exactly the hypocricy I'm taliking about). Democrats don't position themselves as the party of less spending and lower taxes - that's how they're different, they're honest.

[Undertoad]

Whoa, get over yourself! Republicans campaign on lower taxes and when they get into office, increase spending. Democrats campaign on higher spending and when they get into office, increase taxes.

Only Nixon could sign the wage and price freeze.

Only Carter could implement airline and interstate commerce deregulation.

Only Bush Sr. could sign the Clean Water Act of 1990.

Only Clinton could reform welfare.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Read and quote the whole thing, or aren't you ethically inclined to do that (typical conservative - exactly the hypocricy I'm taliking about). Democrats don't position themselves as the party of less spending and lower taxes - that's how they're different, they're honest.

No need to quote the whole thing (Typical liberal - exactly the double standard I'm talking about). Demoncrats tax and spend. Demoncrats are no more honest, not by a long shot.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No need to quote the whole thing (Typical liberal - exactly the double standard I'm talking about). Demoncrats tax and spend. Demoncrats are no more honest, not by a long shot.

Merc, the Dems, while not perfect by any means, are much better than the GOP. They say they tax and spend, because thats what makes sense. Cutting taxes then creating the most massive deficit in history is dishonest, corrupt, and stupid.

And, as I mentioned in the Falwell thread...

Originally Posted by Ibram

The difference between a crazy weird right-winger and a crazy weird left-winger is that the left-winger doesnt advocate locking up all the fags, the niggers, the dykes, the heathens. They dont want to destroy all those who dont fit their closedminded backwards draconian morality; they want to help people, and convince them to leave that draconian ridiculousness.

A right-winger would ban gay sex. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.
A right-winger would ban drugs. A left-winger wouldn't make it mandatory.

That is the difference; that is why right-wingers, all of them, are supporters of totalitarianism, authoritarianism, fascism - and why they are so repulsive to me.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No need to quote the whole thing (Typical liberal - exactly the double standard I'm talking about). Demoncrats tax and spend. Demoncrats are no more honest, not by a long shot.

Democrats don't say they won't tax and spend - that's being honest. Repubicans lie.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Democrats don't say they won't tax and spend - that's being honest. Repubicans lie.

Riggggghhhtttt... they just promise everything to everyone and never deliver. In the mean time my taxes still go up and we give away free medical care to crack mommies and illegal aliens.