Immigrants

bluecuracao · 10-30-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

you can't even call them what they are, can you? repeat after me "illegal immigrants". that means they broke the law. that makes them criminals.

geez, do you call murderers "unlicensed life enders"?

Get real. Crossing a border doesn't put you on the same level as a murderer by a long shot. It's more akin to jaywalking. Does getting a traffic ticket make you a damn criminal?

lookout123 · 10-30-2007, 07:14 PM

i was addressing the severity of their crime, i was addressing your inability to call them what they are.

bluecuracao · 10-30-2007, 07:19 PM

Did you mean to say "I wasn't addressing the severity of their crime"?

queequeger · 10-30-2007, 09:01 PM

So what you're saying, lookout... and let me get this straight, is that the label 'criminal' applies to anyone who breaks the law regardless of severity or motive? So someone being civilly disobedient- sit-ins, protests, etc - is a criminal? So someone who gets a traffic ticket is a criminal?

The reason we need to curb illegal immigration isn't for any practical reason, but that they broke the law? Blind justice isn't blind and if it does more harm to a system than good, punishment has no place.

I think everyone makes some pretty disastrous predictions as to what would happen if we kickalltheimmigrantsout/letalltheimmigrantsin. The likely case is that not much would happen on either side of the coin. Our economy would be less stable, as with any sharp change in population, but the US economy is pretty damned enormous. It wouldn't crash/bolster/explode/urinate on the carpet.

So, if we're going to control 'who's allowed in,' especially based on crimes... why aren't we exporting more citizens? Because they have a right to be here. You see, they were born with their rights. Like Kings. And Aryans.

I saw this coming a mile away, btw. The topic shifted into illegal immigration almost instantly.

bluecuracao · 10-30-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by queequeger

I saw this coming a mile away, btw. The topic shifted into illegal immigration almost instantly.

I put all the blame on Pierce--he should've known better than to post a wiki link right after my discussion-inducing question. He should have addressed it with his own thoughts on what American culture is.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-31-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I put all the blame on Pierce--he should've known better than to post a wiki link right after my discussion-inducing question. He should have addressed it with his own thoughts on what American culture is.

Can I only get 10 lashes this time please?

10-30-2007, 07:14 PM	#2
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i was addressing the severity of their crime, i was addressing your inability to call them what they are. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

10-30-2007, 09:01 PM	#4
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	So what you're saying, lookout... and let me get this straight, is that the label 'criminal' applies to anyone who breaks the law regardless of severity or motive? So someone being civilly disobedient- sit-ins, protests, etc - is a criminal? So someone who gets a traffic ticket is a criminal? The reason we need to curb illegal immigration isn't for any practical reason, but that they broke the law? Blind justice isn't blind and if it does more harm to a system than good, punishment has no place. I think everyone makes some pretty disastrous predictions as to what would happen if we kickalltheimmigrantsout/letalltheimmigrantsin. The likely case is that not much would happen on either side of the coin. Our economy would be less stable, as with any sharp change in population, but the US economy is pretty damned enormous. It wouldn't crash/bolster/explode/urinate on the carpet. So, if we're going to control 'who's allowed in,' especially based on crimes... why aren't we exporting more citizens? Because they have a right to be here. You see, they were born with their rights. Like Kings. And Aryans. I saw this coming a mile away, btw. The topic shifted into illegal immigration almost instantly. __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

10-30-2007, 07:19 PM	#3
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Did you mean to say "I wasn't addressing the severity of their crime"?

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