Eat Wings the Right Way - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2009, 11:55 AM

Both of them? I thought you were more partial to putting the bone in?

Sundae · 11-10-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

Dennis is allergic to chicken...so he eats Hillshire Farms deli selects extra thin honey ham.

I know you're a responsible cat owner - but check the salt content in what you're feeding him. In general meat is only called "ham" if it's salt cured - which is too much salty for little cat bodies (I admit I use it as a treat when the 'rents have it in.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey

has Diz still got his beebles?

I buy Diz beebles every week. The only thing he's short on is bollocks

Sheldonrs · 11-10-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Both of them? I thought you were more partial to putting the bone in?

But I can't put it in without pulling it out first.

jinx · 11-10-2009, 12:49 PM

It's not ideal... and he drinks a ton of water because of it, but he lost 2lbs in the transition from a mostly chicken diet. That's scary in an 8lb cat... and he's only gained 1/2 of it back.
I'll try other stuff again soon now that he's actually eating the kibble (at $36 a bag

), but I couldn't have him not eating anything.

Sundae · 11-10-2009, 12:54 PM

Like I said - I know you're responsible.
I was just shocked when food traffic lights came in here and I realised how damned salty cured meats were (usually at a red for humans, let alone cats).

But I had the same issue with Dyl - of sainted memory - in that he'd pass up any dished food to Diz and only eat from my hand. And what did he like best? High salt processed meat. What do you do? Starve them?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2009, 12:59 PM

That ham is 97% fat free. Maybe a cheaper ham would have more fat, to help weight gain?

Sundae · 11-10-2009, 01:07 PM

Never had an issue with the fat content of processed meats - they're great in moderation if you (human) is on a diet. They're just laden with salt - because that's what curing is - the process of preserving flesh in salt.

Trouble is, when animals of a much smaller mass ingest it, the levels of salt per BMI are so much higher. And it's not part of their natural diet. It isn't healthy.

I'm not criticizing Jinx - I asked her a question to see if she was aware of the issue and she is.

jinx · 11-10-2009, 01:15 PM

Maybe Bruce, I just bought that kind because the boy also likes it, for omlettes and stuff. I should look and see what else is there though. Dennis went from refusing to try anything, (apparently hates all forms of seafood except tuna and the mercury in that freaked me out) to gobbling up that ham so I just went with it...

It definitely has a lot of salt SG, 690mgs in 2oz. Would be a lot easier if he'd just eat goddamn cat food.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Maybe you could go out on the farms and catch him some mice. You know, in your spare time.

Sundae · 11-10-2009, 01:42 PM

Over here you can get frozen packs of meat for animal consumption. Includes bonemeal, which is the next best thing for cats that won't eat actual bones (or if you fear them yourself). Sold in pet supermarkets. Mostly for working dogs but just check the labels.

I know a meat & bones diet does not appeal to every cat owner, all I can say is Diz is doing well on it. He's gaining weight here because he sneaks Mia's food (full fat cat beebles avilable 24-7). But before that he was the sleekest and healthiest cat I've ever seen.

Oh and Bruce - don't tempt me

You can buy live mice for some reptiles. If I thought it would benefit the Diz cat (and I didn't live witrh my Mum!) I would be so tempted to give him a "live" diet!

FTR - as if to prove that a cat needs to hunt, Diz has just come in with a soiled mush. I know what this means. I left the back door ajar so I could hear when the tumble drier had finished (Grandad's shirts). He's been out after worms again. Diz, not Grandad. Filthy beggar.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2009, 01:46 PM

Buying them is poor sportsmanship, ya gotta catch free range mice... bare handed.

Sundae · 11-10-2009, 01:56 PM

Just to update - I went downstairs to find a live wriggling worm (avec soil) in my my Mum's nice beige sofa.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Came here before washing the dirt (from the clean up) from under my nails.
Off for a scrub at such high temps it might remove my fingerprints. Bad Diz.

limey · 11-10-2009, 04:02 PM

Best Beloved and I are regularly wakened in the night by the sound of "CRUNCH CRUNCH" as the cats eat their warm, caught-on-the-hoof snacks on the bedroom floor in the middle of the night ...

Cicero · 11-10-2009, 05:48 PM

We aren't going to talk about wings again are we? MMMMMMMMMM............Wings!

monster · 11-10-2009, 07:06 PM

Did i ever tell you about the wedding dress incident? Black taffeta ....few days before, woke up to black shreds all over bedroom floor... never so relieved to step in blackbird carcus.....

11-10-2009, 11:55 AM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Both of them? I thought you were more partial to putting the bone in? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2009, 12:49 PM	#19
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	It's not ideal... and he drinks a ton of water because of it, but he lost 2lbs in the transition from a mostly chicken diet. That's scary in an 8lb cat... and he's only gained 1/2 of it back. I'll try other stuff again soon now that he's actually eating the kibble (at $36 a bag ), but I couldn't have him not eating anything. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

11-10-2009, 12:54 PM	#20
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Like I said - I know you're responsible. I was just shocked when food traffic lights came in here and I realised how damned salty cured meats were (usually at a red for humans, let alone cats). But I had the same issue with Dyl - of sainted memory - in that he'd pass up any dished food to Diz and only eat from my hand. And what did he like best? High salt processed meat. What do you do? Starve them? __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-10-2009, 12:59 PM	#21
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That ham is 97% fat free. Maybe a cheaper ham would have more fat, to help weight gain? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2009, 01:07 PM	#22
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Never had an issue with the fat content of processed meats - they're great in moderation if you (human) is on a diet. They're just laden with salt - because that's what curing is - the process of preserving flesh in salt. Trouble is, when animals of a much smaller mass ingest it, the levels of salt per BMI are so much higher. And it's not part of their natural diet. It isn't healthy. I'm not criticizing Jinx - I asked her a question to see if she was aware of the issue and she is. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-10-2009, 01:15 PM	#23
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Maybe Bruce, I just bought that kind because the boy also likes it, for omlettes and stuff. I should look and see what else is there though. Dennis went from refusing to try anything, (apparently hates all forms of seafood except tuna and the mercury in that freaked me out) to gobbling up that ham so I just went with it... It definitely has a lot of salt SG, 690mgs in 2oz. Would be a lot easier if he'd just eat goddamn cat food. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

11-10-2009, 01:17 PM	#24
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Maybe you could go out on the farms and catch him some mice. You know, in your spare time. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2009, 01:42 PM	#25
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Over here you can get frozen packs of meat for animal consumption. Includes bonemeal, which is the next best thing for cats that won't eat actual bones (or if you fear them yourself). Sold in pet supermarkets. Mostly for working dogs but just check the labels. I know a meat & bones diet does not appeal to every cat owner, all I can say is Diz is doing well on it. He's gaining weight here because he sneaks Mia's food (full fat cat beebles avilable 24-7). But before that he was the sleekest and healthiest cat I've ever seen. Oh and Bruce - don't tempt me You can buy live mice for some reptiles. If I thought it would benefit the Diz cat (and I didn't live witrh my Mum!) I would be so tempted to give him a "live" diet! FTR - as if to prove that a cat needs to hunt, Diz has just come in with a soiled mush. I know what this means. I left the back door ajar so I could hear when the tumble drier had finished (Grandad's shirts). He's been out after worms again. Diz, not Grandad. Filthy beggar. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac Last edited by Sundae; 11-10-2009 at 01:45 PM. Reason: Just happened

11-10-2009, 01:46 PM	#26
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Buying them is poor sportsmanship, ya gotta catch free range mice... bare handed. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2009, 01:56 PM	#27
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Just to update - I went downstairs to find a live wriggling worm (avec soil) in my my Mum's nice beige sofa. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Came here before washing the dirt (from the clean up) from under my nails. Off for a scrub at such high temps it might remove my fingerprints. Bad Diz. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-10-2009, 04:02 PM	#28
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	Best Beloved and I are regularly wakened in the night by the sound of "CRUNCH CRUNCH" as the cats eat their warm, caught-on-the-hoof snacks on the bedroom floor in the middle of the night ... __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

11-10-2009, 05:48 PM	#29
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	We aren't going to talk about wings again are we? MMMMMMMMMM............Wings! __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

11-10-2009, 07:06 PM	#30
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Did i ever tell you about the wedding dress incident? Black taffeta ....few days before, woke up to black shreds all over bedroom floor... never so relieved to step in blackbird carcus..... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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