Watching the Democrats - it's Fun and Macabre!

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Originally Posted by glatt

The police are randomly searching regular people going about their daily commutes without probable cause or warrants on public transit systems in many major US cities including Washington DC. I've seen it with my own eyes in person.

Fourth Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The Bill of Rights is being violated by the government on a daily basis already.

Wait a minute - although I generally agree with you, especially on the Patriot Act and Carnivore, but I have to find exception with your conclusion here.

The Bill of Rights says we are free from "unreasonable searches and seizures". Note the "unreasonable" part of that.

I'm not familiar enough with the warrantless searches on people in cities back East, to know if it's unreasonable or not. Point is that ALL searches, according to the Bill of Rights, are NOT unreasonable - and therefore some are legal. Look at what the TSA is doing for air travelers, for crying out loud! THAT seems unreasonable to me.

BTW, the nude scanners are going to be removed from the airports, because the manufacturer (one of the major ones), says it can't diminish the resolution of the nude scan. (They tried to cheat in a demo showing they could do it, but got caught - shades of Lance Armstrong, eh? )

The other manufacturers of the nude scan equipment says that they can diminish the resolution, because they use slightly different technology in their scanners.

We shall see.

The cost is horrendous, but the gov't doesn't believe the nude scanner is legal, and has given the manufacturer plenty of time to find the fix for it - which it now says it can't find.

A less intrusive scanner will be put in place, of course.