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Old 05-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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Benghazi is a black eye, but the Republicans are milking it for all it's worth for purely political reasons. It's Monday morning quarterbacking. It's obvious now that things went wrong, but I don't think it was obvious then. As tw points out, we still don't completely understand what happened. But I think we should try to learn what happened there so it doesn't happen again. We shouldn't pick at it for political gain.

IRS: I don't have a problem with the IRS scrutinizing organizations that are trying to get out of paying taxes. Good for them. The only reason it's mostly a bunch of conservative groups is because that's the time period that a bunch of conservatives were forming new tax exempt organizations. Some of the information requests seem a little extreme, but that's what the IRS does. They ask for documentation. This is another politically driven non-story.

The API/CIA leak story is disturbing. I don't like how closed the Obama administration is. I'd like some more transparency. His administration has tried to go after more leaks than previous ones. I don't support that and am disappointed in him.

The military sex scandals aren't a reflection on the Obama administration. It's the military. Obama has been working hard to dismantle that old boys club, but it takes some time to change the culture.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:24 AM   #2
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"the Republicans are milking it for all it's worth"

Agreed. That's why the investigatory emphasis is placed wrong.

Dems aren't helping by downplaying potential inaction or poor planning.

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"This is another politically driven non-story.'

Agreed. What's unfortunate: at the same time the IRS was grilling rightist groups, it was rubberstamping leftist groups.

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"I'd like some more transparency."

It's the nature of 'power' that it makes those who hold it zealous in safeguarding that 'power' (and closeting the means by which the 'power' is held and increased).

'Transparency' is a nice rainbow one can never catch.

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"military sex scandals"

Woman has gun...man harasses woman...woman shoots man...what problem?

It's not the 'sex' that's the problem; it's the attempt to neuter men and women...unrealistic expectations always lead to spectacularly disappointing results.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:02 AM   #3
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"This is another politically driven non-story.'

Agreed. What's unfortunate: at the same time the IRS was grilling rightist groups, it was rubberstamping leftist groups.

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before my gears are ground smooth on this one, I'd like to give you a chance to offer a supporting citation for such a claim. Please.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:31 AM   #4
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"a supporting citation"

I withdraw the statement.

One of the talking heads on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' made the comment about rubberstamping lefties while grilling righties, this morning.

I can't recall who the head was (it was a he) and I don't have time to research it, so -- again -- I withdraw the statement.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:31 AM   #5
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The military sex scandals aren't a reflection on the Obama administration. It's the military.
Obama has been working hard to dismantle that old boys club,
but it takes some time to change the culture.
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There also is an ongoing investigation into more than 30 Air Force instructors
for assaults on trainees at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas,
and the recent arrest of the Air Force's head of sexual assault prevention
on charges of groping a woman.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/15...#ixzz2TNKdjbRg
This scandal seems to be particularly stone-embedded in the US Air Force.
Remember even the "tailgate" headlines in the 1990's...
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:42 AM   #6
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I do remember "tailgate." It was "tailhook" though, and was in the Navy
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:52 PM   #7
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I do remember "tailgate." It was "tailhook" though, and was in the Navy
OK, my bad... but it wasn't it the aviation side of the Navy ?
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:45 PM   #8
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Benghazi is a black eye, but the Republicans are milking it for all it's worth for purely political reasons. It's Monday morning quarterbacking. It's obvious now that things went wrong, but I don't think it was obvious then. As tw points out, we still don't completely understand what happened. But I think we should try to learn what happened there so it doesn't happen again. We shouldn't pick at it for political gain.

IRS: I don't have a problem with the IRS scrutinizing organizations that are trying to get out of paying taxes. Good for them. The only reason it's mostly a bunch of conservative groups is because that's the time period that a bunch of conservatives were forming new tax exempt organizations. Some of the information requests seem a little extreme, but that's what the IRS does. They ask for documentation. This is another politically driven non-story.

The API/CIA leak story is disturbing. I don't like how closed the Obama administration is. I'd like some more transparency. His administration has tried to go after more leaks than previous ones. I don't support that and am disappointed in him.

The military sex scandals aren't a reflection on the Obama administration. It's the military. Obama has been working hard to dismantle that old boys club, but it takes some time to change the culture.
I think glatt has it about right. The IRS thing might a big deal depending on what comes out. Turn it around, say Richard Nixon's IRS was sifting through various lefty orgs... At this point, I'm more concerned by drone executions than any of these.
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