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[regular.joe]

Oversite is good, and ok. Massive oversite and regulation will hamstring our ability to do the job. Also, we can't let this get to the point where it is unAmerican to join the Military, Police, or to choose to put your talents to work in an organization like the NSA. All of these professions seek to protect the United States. The guys working in these professions, on the whole, are patriots doing their level best to provide offensive/defensive capabilities for us all.

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Originally Posted by regular.joe

The guys working in these professions, on the whole, are patriots doing their level best to provide offensive/defensive capabilities for us all.

5,000 American patriots decided to massacre themselves in a war that had no purpose? Of course not. They (and the NSA people you mistakenly think are being blamed) did not and must not make any such decisions. We massacred 5,000 servicemen in Iraq because ... well ... posts in 2002 and 2003 still exist in the Cellar today. They did not decide to harm America. We did. So many of us so intentionally ignored history as to massacre 5000 American uselessly in Iraq. And then subverted the American constitution by endorsing wacko extremist fears from Cheney et al.

Did you read George Jr's book published before he was president? Why not? That alone showed how uneducated dumb the man was. But so many want to be told how to think rather than protect 5,000 American servicemen from death.

We have the spy problem because so many here (and that does include you) voted for obviously dumb and wacko extremists who promoted fear. They were obviously lying even in 2002/3. We have the consequences of too many Americans educated by Limbaugh, Fox News, Tea party rhetoric, and even a witch from Delaware.

Hopefully enough Americans are finally learning why the government is spying on everyone. George Jr's administration was only doing what Nixon's people also considered acceptable. 30 years later and we only relive mistakes from history. Those mistakes in early 2000s are now apparent in the 2010s.

Many in the Cellar read the warnings. Ignored them. Voted by George Jr. And are personally responsible for massacring 5000 Americans in Iraq and unrestricted spying even on all American allies. They did not decide to massacre themselves or subvert the Constitution. We did. By even voting into office people clearly too dumb and extremist to be trusted with such powers.

Deja Vue Nam. Not everyone wants to remember warnings attached to that expression.

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Rampant disregard for the law and privacy protection has been rampant in the NSA. A May 2012 report was leaked to the Washington Post. Yes we have no idea what government is doing without leakers including Bradley Manning. Demonstrating how easy and routine such violations occur. And demonstrating how accurate Snowden has been in protecting the fundamentals of American democracy. The front page Washington Post report of 15 Aug 2013 is entitled "NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year, audit finds".