Obama Care vs Republicans

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

A) She may kill a bunch of people.
B) She may affect** other people, such as richlevy.
C) It could have saved her life, which most of us would have given any amount to do, and is the right and humane approach for all of society.

C is the real answer, but you may have to use A and B because lots of people will see C as socialist and therefore evil.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

C is the real answer, but you may have to use A and B because lots of people will see C as socialist and therefore evil.

Which is my point. Congressman are all for grandstanding when the real cost is neglibile and the only effect is limited, like the Terri Shaivo case. However, no amount of stories from friends and family will really have an affect unless it happens to be their friends or family.

Real policy change is made in dollars and cents. In charts on lost productivity, social services expenditures, etc. In making an argument for expenditures, the best argument is savings in cost. It is not a moral argument but a practical one.

And gun violence, while only a tiny percentage of the issue, is the most visible and the most visceral. And the rise in violent incidents might actually be an indicator of a rise in issues overall. Because congressman believe that voters will be more willing to pay for protection than for social good, the argument is easier to make.

Unfortunately, they may be right.

[Adak]

So Obama decried the IRS targeting Tea Party and Conservative groups, leading up to his re-election.

He was going to get it stopped!

This is why I hate politicians. They lie worse than rugs.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ed-by-the-irs/

Although Mr. Elliott worked for the gov't during most of these years, he's being audited all the way back to 2009, now.

Just a COINCIDENCE that he received notification from the IRS, right AFTER he went on TV to explain his severe problem with Obamacare.

Mr. Elliott has terminal cancer, but Obamacare won't allow him to get coverage - "no one with a preexisting condition will be denied coverage", is just

< ONE MORE LIE. >

And it's ALL A COINCIDENCE, that he's now being audited after pointing out a serious flaw (lie), in Obamacare.

It's the modern age, our rulers don't need brown shirts or goon squads to come after you. Not at all! They can use gov't organizations like the IRS, to simply ruin you. Problem solved.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Adak

So Obama decried the IRS targeting Tea Party and Conservative groups, leading up to his re-election.

Many other and so called liberal groups were also targeted including many if not most 'Occupy Wall Street' type organizations. Later reports said targeted organizations tended to be many political groups claiming to be non-profit. Groups who used words such as "Israel," "progressive" and "Occupy" were investigated. IRS should have also investigated organizations that advocate torture as patriotic; but they didn't. Plenty of left and right extremists groups are angry because so few moderate organizations were targeted.

Why did you forget to include facts that Fox News also forgot to report?

[Lamplighter]

Do you remember the joke about the dinner meeting of the Standup Comedians Society ?

One person yelled out the number "24"... and there were a few snickers.
Another yelled out "77" ... and there were several loud chuckles
Another yelled out "40" ... but no one laughed, except one fellow who fell out of his chair laughing.

The wife of another member asked:
"Why is that man laughing so hard when no one else is even chuckling ?"
An old timer answered: "Oh, he's new here, and he hadn't heard that joke before"

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OK, it's a dumb joke.

But I want to give numbers to Adak's rants.
Then he can just post the numbers and I won't have to read thru them over and over and...

.

[Adak]

Lamplighter, you don't believe for one minute that the Obama Press Corps (oops! NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN), would broadcast the base behavior of their Glorious Leader, do you?

Perish the thought! Any idea you have regarding Obama's poor policies is totally racist, don't you know? If you express your opinion of it on public forums, they'll know you're crazy.

It's from Obama, ergo it's Glorious. Don't believe what your lying eyes are telling you, anymore.