100% Whole Grain VS. 100% Wholewheat

Drax · 10-03-2007, 05:33 PM

Any difference?

Cloud · 10-03-2007, 05:38 PM

well, sure. There are more grains than just wheat, you know. Rye, oats, etc.

The BIG difference, and the one you have to watch out for, is bread advertised as "healthy," "wheat," "multi-grain" etc. which is NOT whole grain. You have to check the label. If it just says "wheat flour" or "enriched wheat flour," it's NOT whole wheat.

Drax · 10-03-2007, 06:10 PM

What about the following:

Wonder Whole Grain White
Wonder Whole Grain Wheat
Wonder Whole Grain Honeywheat
Nature's Own Honeywheat
Nature's Own ButterBread

I'm technically :p on the South Beach Diet, so I want the nutrition, but good taste is most important to me, and that Earth Grains crap just doesn't do it for me.

DanaC · 10-03-2007, 06:11 PM

Drax, read the ingredients. That's the only way you can be sure.

kerosene · 10-03-2007, 06:16 PM

Anyone have any tips on how to make 100% whole grain bread? I have tried with wheat, but I figure it might be the altitude, as I sit above 6000 feet.

Drax · 10-03-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Drax, read the ingredients. That's the only way you can be sure.

Yes, I know I can do that, but is there any logical reason why I can't ask here?

DanaC · 10-03-2007, 06:20 PM

Did I say don't ask here? Fuck me, I only offered my tuppen'orth of advice.

My point was this: Nature's Own Honeywheat could mean anything. Those are phrases that marketing people have come up with. If you just go off the marketing then you may be misled (which I believe was much what Cloud was saying). If you look at the ingredients you are seeing the raw materials that have gone into the product, rather than the marketing slant.

Cloud · 10-03-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drax

What about the following:

Wonder Whole Grain White
Wonder Whole Grain Wheat
Wonder Whole Grain Honeywheat
Nature's Own Honeywheat
Nature's Own ButterBread

I'm technically :p on the South Beach Diet, so I want the nutrition, but good taste is most important to me, and that Earth Grains crap just doesn't do it for me.

What about them? If you are asking whether they are whole grain, the only way to tell is if it says "whole wheat flour" or equivalent.

Cloud · 10-03-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drax

Yes, I know I can do that, but is there any logical reason why I can't ask here?

Because we can't see the label from this far away?

Drax · 10-03-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Did I say don't ask here? Fuck me, I only offered my tuppen'orth of advice.

Ok, ok, don't get vclept.

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Nature's Own Honeywheat could mean anything. Those are phrases that marketing people have come up with.

That's the brand name, not a marketing phrase.

Here are the ingredients (copied from http://www.naturesownbread.com/NAT_V...&ProductID=9):

UNBLEACHED ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR [FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE (VITAMIN B1), RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), FOLIC ACID (A B VITAMIN)], WATER, HONEY, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, RYE FLOUR, WHEAT GLUTEN, WHEAT BRAN, YEAST, CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING:, SOY FLOUR, VEGETABLE OIL (SOYBEAN OIL OR CANOLA OIL), SALT, DOUGH CONDITIONERS (SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE, CALCIUM STEAROYL-2-LACTYLATE, MONOGLYCERIDES, CALCIUM IODATE, ETHOXYLATED MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, CALCIUM PEROXIDE, DATEM), WHEY (MILK), CULTURED WHEY, VINEGAR, CALCIUM SULFATE, MONOCALCIUM PHOSPHATE, YEAST FOOD (AMMONIUM SULFATE)

and the nutrition label:

DanaC · 10-03-2007, 07:38 PM

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Ok, ok, don't get vclept.

I have no idea what vclept is. I do know you were a touchy little cunt and I objected.

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That's the brand name, not a marketing phrase.

A brand name is a marketing phrase. Otherwise they'd just call it BREAD.

Cloud · 10-03-2007, 07:39 PM

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That's the brand name, not a marketing phrase.

sorry, but just what do you think brand names are, hon, if not marketing phrases?

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UNBLEACHED ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR

means it's not whole wheat.

DanaC · 10-03-2007, 07:39 PM

On a more serious note, I'd be inclined to avoid the 'High fructose corn syrup'. If it's the stuff I'm thinking of it's seriously bad for you.

Cloud · 10-03-2007, 07:43 PM

although the ingredients list "whole wheat flour," it's far down the ingredient list. For genuine whole wheat bread, it must be the FIRST listed ingredient.

verklempt: all choked up

Drax · 10-03-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

I have no idea what vclept is.

Actually, I don't either. :p But it was from Mike Myers' "Coffee Talk" on SNL.

10-03-2007, 05:33 PM	#1
Drax Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gallman, MS, USA Posts: 1,933	100% Whole Grain VS. 100% Wholewheat Any difference?

10-03-2007, 05:38 PM	#2
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	well, sure. There are more grains than just wheat, you know. Rye, oats, etc. The BIG difference, and the one you have to watch out for, is bread advertised as "healthy," "wheat," "multi-grain" etc. which is NOT whole grain. You have to check the label. If it just says "wheat flour" or "enriched wheat flour," it's NOT whole wheat. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-03-2007, 06:10 PM	#3
Drax Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gallman, MS, USA Posts: 1,933	What about the following: Wonder Whole Grain White Wonder Whole Grain Wheat Wonder Whole Grain Honeywheat Nature's Own Honeywheat Nature's Own ButterBread I'm technically :p on the South Beach Diet, so I want the nutrition, but good taste is most important to me, and that Earth Grains crap just doesn't do it for me.

10-03-2007, 07:43 PM	#14
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	although the ingredients list "whole wheat flour," it's far down the ingredient list. For genuine whole wheat bread, it must be the FIRST listed ingredient. verklempt: all choked up __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-03-2007, 06:11 PM	#4
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Drax, read the ingredients. That's the only way you can be sure.

10-03-2007, 06:16 PM	#5
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Anyone have any tips on how to make 100% whole grain bread? I have tried with wheat, but I figure it might be the altitude, as I sit above 6000 feet.

10-03-2007, 06:20 PM	#7
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Did I say don't ask here? Fuck me, I only offered my tuppen'orth of advice. My point was this: Nature's Own Honeywheat could mean anything. Those are phrases that marketing people have come up with. If you just go off the marketing then you may be misled (which I believe was much what Cloud was saying). If you look at the ingredients you are seeing the raw materials that have gone into the product, rather than the marketing slant.

10-03-2007, 07:39 PM	#13
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	On a more serious note, I'd be inclined to avoid the 'High fructose corn syrup'. If it's the stuff I'm thinking of it's seriously bad for you.

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