Internet downloading poll for my CJ class

Troubleshooter · 03-10-2004, 03:03 PM

Ok, I need some stuff to put in a paper for my CJ 101 class. Help me out.

Let me know how you found out how to get the songs as well.

Please hit the poll and follow up with some basic demographic data (gender, age) for me, please, please, please...

perth · 03-10-2004, 03:16 PM

I found out about mp3s and their easy download so long ago (it was, gosh, in 99, I think) that I really don't remember how I found out about it. Probably from a friend at the callcentre I worked at.

Yeah, I use to download music, but that has stopped in recent years for several reasons:

1. Despite filenames, you really don't know what you're getting.
2. I like my music ripped at high bitrates. The ones you find online are generally 128kbps or less.
3. I have enough disposable income now that I can afford the CD's I want.
4. Really, it does feel like I'm doing something wrong when I do it. That isn't meant to pass judgement on anyone, but when *I* do it, I feel like I've done something wrong.

Male, 26.

SteveDallas · 03-10-2004, 03:22 PM

What's CJ?

You didn't have a category for "Illegal and I don't do it but the RIAA is still a bunch of clueless turkeys who are driving their industry into an early grave."

-10 points on your assignment for spelling "from" wrong.

34 pedantic male

Pi · 03-10-2004, 04:06 PM

Male 23

Mostly the same reasons as perth.
5) It isn't right to do something illegal. It's a principe

wolf · 03-10-2004, 04:09 PM

An ex-boyfriend introduced me to the joys of Kazaa.

At the time I did not have a broadband connection or a CD burner, so it was nothing more than an interesting curiosity.

I don't like the idea of giving permission to others to snoop onto my hard drive, so I haven't joined up now that I do have a CD burner and broadband.

Edit to add: female, 42

dar512 · 03-10-2004, 04:10 PM

I put down illegal, but I would modify SteveDallas' comment to be my true opinion.

Illegal and I don't do it but the RIAA, Clearcast and most other radio stations are still a bunch of clueless turkeys who are driving their industry into an early grave.

Happy Monkey · 03-10-2004, 04:11 PM

I expect CJ is Criminal Justice.

Troubleshooter · 03-10-2004, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Happy Monkey
I expect CJ is Criminal Justice.

That it is. I'm doing a double major, sociology and criminal justice.

This is gonna suck...

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf

I don't like the idea of giving permission to others to snoop onto my hard drive, so I haven't joined up now that I do have a CD burner and broadband.

That's why you want Kazaa lite. You can download without setting up a file to share with others on both but lite doesn't have the data miners and snoops.

I download to hear things, but don't save or record them.
They tell me it's illegal....I don't care.

male- jurasic

headsplice · 03-10-2004, 05:18 PM

Yes it's illegal, but to be honest, I don't really care. From the numbers that I've read (and can't reproduce, oops), most of the money from album sales ends up going to the Labels anyway (for reimbursements of advertising, engineering, recording, etc...), and I feel bad about 'taking' money from the hyper wealthy at all. I pay to see live shows all the time (which goes directly to the artist) and if there were a way for me to send money to the artist directly for the CD (a la TC favs the Rhymesayers Collective), I would pay for more of my music. But there isn't, so I don't.
Male - 26

addendum: I don't file share at all (i.e., Kazaa, Bearshare, etc...), my methods for obtaining music are one of the ancient protocols of the net.

SteveDallas · 03-10-2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troubleshooter
This is gonna suck...

Why is it gonna suck? Are you not liking our opinions??

lumberjim · 03-10-2004, 06:02 PM

when i first heard that it was possible, it was all napster. when napster was shut down, i switched to kazaa. when they started actively prosecuting people, i stopped. now i just go to message boards, infiltrate myself into a position of trust, and start a grass roots movement of music sharing, but with stipulations not to copy, thereby complying with my uber moral standards, and the law of the land.

male 33

Brigliadore · 03-10-2004, 07:22 PM

I used to download songs all the time. I downloaded from Audio Galaxy, BUT I only downloaded to make sure I liked other songs by the artist. If I liked most of a particular artists music I then would go out and buy the Cd. If I ended up not liking the artists other songs I kept the one I liked and didn't buy the Cd (its the artists fault for making a shitty Cd

). Now with all the suing and shit going on I don't download any more but only for fear of being sued. Alan and I aren't buying Cd's till the record companies stop this suing people bullshit. So now I go down to my local county library (12 different libraries all on the same system so its like one mega sized library) and check the Cd's out, rip the songs I want, and then return the Cd's. My library(s) has 90% of the Cd's I want and for the occasional one we cant find we buy second hand from someone off Ebay for a couple bucks.

I didn't vote in your poll because I am not sure how my answer works with the poll. I don't download songs but not because its illegal, only because I don't want to get sued.

Brigliadore · 03-10-2004, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by headsplice
From the numbers that I've read (and can't reproduce, oops), most of the money from album sales ends up going to the Labels anyway

That is another great example of why Alan & I aren't buying Cd's. The record company says they are suing everyone to protect the "Artists" when the artists get something like 6 cents for every album sold.

Here is another interesting tidbit of info that I read in a magazine about a week ago. Norah Jones' new album Feels Like Home sold something like 1.6 million copies in its first week of release (and like 150 thousand in the second week), numbers like that have not been done since in-sync (I don't care if I spelled them wrong) 5 years or so ago. And on top of selling 1.6 million copies the first week of release she is also the number one downloaded artist on the internet, according to a company that tracks this type of stuff. That tells me that even with people downloading her music left and right, they are still going out and buying the Cd.

Troubleshooter · 03-10-2004, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas

Why is it gonna suck? Are you not liking our opinions??

It's gonna suck because i'm only just realizing the research and writing I'm going to have to do for both of those majors is going to be giant pain in my ass.

Oh well, I did it to myself...

View Poll Results: In your opinion downloading music form the internet, without paying is:
illegal and I don't do it.	13	39.39%
illegal and I do it anyway.	8	24.24%
illegal but the music companies deserve it for charging us so much for so long.	5	15.15%
legal.	2	6.06%
why I have broadband.	5	15.15%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

03-10-2004, 03:03 PM	#1
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Internet downloading poll for my CJ class Ok, I need some stuff to put in a paper for my CJ 101 class. Help me out. Let me know how you found out how to get the songs as well. Please hit the poll and follow up with some basic demographic data (gender, age) for me, please, please, please... __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle Last edited by Troubleshooter; 03-10-2004 at 03:06 PM.

03-10-2004, 04:06 PM	#4
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	Male 23 Mostly the same reasons as perth. 5) It isn't right to do something illegal. It's a principe __________________ Complex simplex

03-10-2004, 04:09 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	An ex-boyfriend introduced me to the joys of Kazaa. At the time I did not have a broadband connection or a CD burner, so it was nothing more than an interesting curiosity. I don't like the idea of giving permission to others to snoop onto my hard drive, so I haven't joined up now that I do have a CD burner and broadband. Edit to add: female, 42 __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-10-2004, 04:11 PM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I expect CJ is Criminal Justice. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-10-2004, 03:16 PM	#2
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	I found out about mp3s and their easy download so long ago (it was, gosh, in 99, I think) that I really don't remember how I found out about it. Probably from a friend at the callcentre I worked at. Yeah, I use to download music, but that has stopped in recent years for several reasons: 1. Despite filenames, you really don't know what you're getting. 2. I like my music ripped at high bitrates. The ones you find online are generally 128kbps or less. 3. I have enough disposable income now that I can afford the CD's I want. 4. Really, it does feel like I'm doing something wrong when I do it. That isn't meant to pass judgement on anyone, but when I do it, I feel like I've done something wrong. Male, 26.

03-10-2004, 03:22 PM	#3
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	What's CJ? You didn't have a category for "Illegal and I don't do it but the RIAA is still a bunch of clueless turkeys who are driving their industry into an early grave." -10 points on your assignment for spelling "from" wrong. 34 pedantic male

03-10-2004, 04:10 PM	#6
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	I put down illegal, but I would modify SteveDallas' comment to be my true opinion. Illegal and I don't do it but the RIAA, Clearcast and most other radio stations are still a bunch of clueless turkeys who are driving their industry into an early grave.

03-10-2004, 05:18 PM	#10
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	Yes it's illegal, but to be honest, I don't really care. From the numbers that I've read (and can't reproduce, oops), most of the money from album sales ends up going to the Labels anyway (for reimbursements of advertising, engineering, recording, etc...), and I feel bad about 'taking' money from the hyper wealthy at all. I pay to see live shows all the time (which goes directly to the artist) and if there were a way for me to send money to the artist directly for the CD (a la TC favs the Rhymesayers Collective), I would pay for more of my music. But there isn't, so I don't. Male - 26 addendum: I don't file share at all (i.e., Kazaa, Bearshare, etc...), my methods for obtaining music are one of the ancient protocols of the net. __________________ Don't Panic

03-10-2004, 06:02 PM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	when i first heard that it was possible, it was all napster. when napster was shut down, i switched to kazaa. when they started actively prosecuting people, i stopped. now i just go to message boards, infiltrate myself into a position of trust, and start a grass roots movement of music sharing, but with stipulations not to copy, thereby complying with my uber moral standards, and the law of the land. male 33 __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-10-2004, 07:22 PM	#13
Brigliadore stays crispy in milk Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: A strange planet called Utah Posts: 270	I used to download songs all the time. I downloaded from Audio Galaxy, BUT I only downloaded to make sure I liked other songs by the artist. If I liked most of a particular artists music I then would go out and buy the Cd. If I ended up not liking the artists other songs I kept the one I liked and didn't buy the Cd (its the artists fault for making a shitty Cd ). Now with all the suing and shit going on I don't download any more but only for fear of being sued. Alan and I aren't buying Cd's till the record companies stop this suing people bullshit. So now I go down to my local county library (12 different libraries all on the same system so its like one mega sized library) and check the Cd's out, rip the songs I want, and then return the Cd's. My library(s) has 90% of the Cd's I want and for the occasional one we cant find we buy second hand from someone off Ebay for a couple bucks. I didn't vote in your poll because I am not sure how my answer works with the poll. I don't download songs but not because its illegal, only because I don't want to get sued. __________________ I cant think of anything to put here so this is all I am going to write.

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