The PH45 doesn't like Capitalism thread

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

In our world today if you are poor or in the working class, ...very few tend to be happy.

We will need a cite for that.

Although you are right, "Happiness comes after you are physically secure" that was suggested by Maslow in his heirarchy of needs:

That is why I am looking for a system where a community can provide the physical security and then it is up to the individual to find emotional security.

But what if people decide to get high all day?

This is the gut problem with all charity: if you find that you suddenly CAN provide "security of body, of employment, of resources, of morality, of the family, of health, of property" -- let's say, from some Magic Genie Lamp and not off the shoulders of productive people -- then what about those people who decide, at that point, to get drunk/high/tripped out all day and make no effort whatsoever? I mean, godblessum, I want to hang out with them, but they will stop being productive. If you've solved the lower levels of their hierarchy of needs, they have no incentive, practically by definition. And the loss of their productive work will decrease your New Golden Society's productivity by about half... probably crushing its Magic Genie Lamp in the process.

(sidebar: some people will not become productive human beings until they lose some or all of the bottom tier hierarchy. And some will not even if they do hit that level. That's just life.)