Russian attack on country of Georgia

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

We may never know what went on behind closed doors in the run up to this crap, maybe Saakashvili was set up, like Saddam when he invaded Kuwait, but doesn't make it the Russians fault.
We'll probably find out it was New Zealand's fault.

There were a lot of neocons in the region just this July. Both Condi and Rove had talks with Mr. Saakashvili during this visit. And even McCains foreign policy adviser was there...he is a lobbyist for Georgia.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

There were a lot of neocons in the region just this July. Both Condi and Rove had talks with Mr. Saakashvili during this visit. And even McCains foreign policy adviser was there...he is a lobbyist for Georgia.

Well there you have it!

"It's Bush's Fault!"

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well there you have it!

"It's Bush's Fault!"

Bush is an idiot and ...anyway, not the source. By neocons, I mean the group that surrounds him and basically pull his strings. It does seem that a lot of the people involved in our foreign policy were in the area in July. The White House is currently trying to downplay the meetings, but its hard to ignore the coincidence.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Bush is an idiot and ...anyway, not the source. By neocons, I mean the group that surrounds him and basically pull his strings. It does seem that a lot of the people involved in our foreign policy were in the area in July. The White House is currently trying to downplay the meetings, but its hard to ignore the coincidence.

It is also easy to believe conspiracy theories when they fit your preconceived notions about what you want to believe.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It is also easy to believe conspiracy theories when they fit your preconceived notions about what you want to believe.

What conspiracy theory are you thinking I believe in? Maybe its the same as yours. Because I believe, like you, that this could be part of the 'new' energy wars to come. But, I also believe that our incursions into Afghanistan and Iraq were too.

[lookout123]

yeah, cuz buildings falling down had nothing to do with afghanistan.

[Griff]

The world is sufficiently complicated to contain both those ideas.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

But, I also believe that our incursions into Afghanistan and Iraq were too.

That I do not believe and challenge you to prove your assertions.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by lookout123

yeah, cuz buildings falling down had nothing to do with Afghanistan.

Afghanistan was responsible for 9/11? Huh.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That I do not believe and challenge you to prove your assertions.

My assertions are based on the research I did at the time. I discovered that there were several oil companies that needed a much calmer Afghanistan so that they could build a couple of planned pipelines. The Taliban were getting greedy and wanted a bigger cut of the action. I also discovered that Saddam was planning some sweet oil package deals with China and Russia to be set in motion once he was free of the sanctions. AND he was talking about dealing with euros instead of dollars. I cant say any of that is proof, but it sure did keep me from believing the propaganda we were given.