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Griff What do you hear when people... 01-02-2009, 07:53 AM

footfootfoot Depending upon the speaker... 01-02-2009, 09:28 AM

Griff Wait, he wasn't singing about... 01-02-2009, 09:43 AM

lumberjim FRENCH FRIES 01-02-2009, 09:50 AM

bluecuracao When MLK says it, I get a... 01-02-2009, 10:02 AM

Griff smart yummy Well said. 01-02-2009, 10:05 AM

Shawnee123 :notworthy: 01-02-2009, 11:02 AM

Stormieweather A lot of people think... 01-02-2009, 11:45 AM

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Urbane Guerrilla I don't get it. I googled... 04-16-2009, 06:19 AM

TheMercenary I don't grok this. How do... 04-20-2009, 09:06 AM

henry quirk "You are taking something... 04-20-2009, 09:22 AM

Undertoad Free will is a rather new... 01-02-2009, 10:22 AM

piercehawkeye45 Which line? I see a lot of... 01-02-2009, 11:55 AM

Shawnee123 Well then, quit spying on me.... 01-02-2009, 11:56 AM

Cicero I think of it in the way that... 01-02-2009, 11:59 AM

xoxoxoBruce When I hear someone say... 01-02-2009, 07:09 PM

regular.joe Everyone has an agenda. 01-03-2009, 12:33 PM

piercehawkeye45 Mel Gibson. 01-02-2009, 07:27 PM

dar512 I'm a child of the 60s, so... 01-06-2009, 02:48 PM

Mystic Rythm Freedom is just about having... 01-15-2009, 05:18 PM

henry quirk 'What do you hear when people... 01-28-2009, 12:29 PM

xoxoxoBruce Not free of, free to. You... 01-30-2009, 02:31 AM

henry quirk 'Not free of, free to' i... 01-30-2009, 10:19 AM

Kaliayev Usually I hear bleating... 01-30-2009, 09:52 PM

Queen of the Ryche So am I incorrect in stating... 04-21-2009, 04:02 PM

henry quirk so: based on one post --... 04-21-2009, 04:06 PM

W.HI.P murder, theft, propaganda,... 03-23-2009, 12:05 PM

DanaC Freedom is a much overused... 01-02-2009, 07:32 PM

jinx ... to the extreme!! 01-02-2009, 07:34 PM

Beestie Freedom is independence. ... 01-02-2009, 08:02 PM

Undertoad What you need to know about... 01-02-2009, 08:37 PM

Pie Nothing left to lose. 01-02-2009, 10:49 PM

xoxoxoBruce In the U.S. freedom meant... 01-03-2009, 12:43 AM

TheMercenary Actually, bruce nails it.... 01-04-2009, 08:01 PM

bluecuracao Yup, all that still holds... 01-04-2009, 11:08 PM

Beestie I never got that line. ... 01-02-2009, 11:40 PM

DanaC She didn't write it. Kris... 01-03-2009, 06:49 AM

Sundae Freedom is a Sweet Word ... 01-03-2009, 06:49 AM

Aliantha When someone says they're... 01-03-2009, 06:29 PM

xoxoxoBruce That's what it means, only... 01-03-2009, 09:50 PM

Beestie I interpret "nothing left to... 01-03-2009, 11:20 PM

xoxoxoBruce No, freedom is having no... 01-04-2009, 07:35 PM

Beestie Clarity such as this is a... 01-05-2009, 03:51 AM

JPB Your freedom doesn't sound... 01-26-2009, 07:30 PM

Aliantha And very few people ever... 01-03-2009, 09:53 PM

TheMercenary He gets it right becuase it... 01-04-2009, 08:00 PM

Trilby I hear Mel Gibson. 01-15-2009, 05:34 PM

piercehawkeye45 I think I agree. Absolute... 01-28-2009, 12:46 AM

xoxoxoBruce That's not my definition,... 01-28-2009, 12:54 AM

DanaC Nice definition. I like that. 01-29-2009, 05:24 AM

henry quirk thanks... ;) 01-29-2009, 10:06 AM

Clodfobble Free of restraint, yes, but... 01-30-2009, 10:46 AM

henry quirk in the first post of the... 01-30-2009, 11:14 AM

henry quirk another way to look at it:... 01-30-2009, 11:31 AM

DanaC Have to bear in mind though,... 01-30-2009, 01:57 PM

classicman That also depends upon which... 01-30-2009, 05:39 PM

TheMercenary Oh you are going to be... 02-20-2009, 06:54 PM

Perry Winkle TW, without the capital... 02-21-2009, 10:03 AM

Shawnee123 But that isn't really... 02-21-2009, 12:07 PM

xoxoxoBruce For anyone because henry... 02-21-2009, 12:09 PM

Shawnee123 If henry quirk is dead and... 02-21-2009, 12:11 PM

xoxoxoBruce He was successful in taking... 02-21-2009, 12:17 PM

Urbane Guerrilla Ah. "Nothing ever ends,... 04-16-2009, 06:33 AM

Shawnee123 At what point was he... 02-21-2009, 12:20 PM

xoxoxoBruce He was successful in doing... 02-21-2009, 12:30 PM

Shawnee123 I see your point. But say... 02-21-2009, 12:35 PM

xoxoxoBruce Until his apparent success... 02-21-2009, 12:42 PM

Shawnee123 lol "You LIED to me. You... 02-21-2009, 12:43 PM

Cloud I hear jets. 02-21-2009, 03:03 PM

classicman So there isn't any "free-gum"... 02-21-2009, 03:12 PM

henry quirk "henry quirk is dead and Joe... 02-23-2009, 09:50 AM

henry quirk "there are different kinds of... 02-23-2009, 10:10 AM

xoxoxoBruce No. You're trying to distill... 02-23-2009, 10:56 AM

henry quirk "You're trying to distill... 02-23-2009, 02:36 PM

henry quirk "What do you hear when people... 03-24-2009, 10:43 AM

W.HI.P this thread asks a specific... 03-24-2009, 08:37 PM

xoxoxoBruce Uh, long winter up there... 03-25-2009, 01:34 AM

Phage0070 I wonder why you think murder... 03-25-2009, 11:22 AM

Shawnee123 It's all the hobo-killin'... 03-25-2009, 11:44 AM

henry quirk "It's all the hobo-killin'... 03-25-2009, 11:52 AM

henry quirk let me get this right... ... 03-25-2009, 12:14 PM

W.HI.P lol i'm refering to the... 03-25-2009, 02:52 PM

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dar512 I don't hear "freedom" come... 03-25-2009, 02:46 PM

skysidhe a non police state 1776... 03-24-2009, 10:53 AM

Undertoad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C... 03-25-2009, 09:24 AM

classicman thread/Fookin' A, W.HI.P got... 03-25-2009, 04:57 PM

henry quirk "we are the scum of the... 03-25-2009, 05:15 PM

henry quirk what i find most deplorable... 03-25-2009, 05:25 PM

W.HI.P we determine the nature of... 03-25-2009, 05:50 PM

monster That's why she's in the... 03-25-2009, 07:54 PM

henry quirk "we determine the nature of... 03-26-2009, 10:55 AM

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Phage0070 Without us, what purpose does... 03-25-2009, 08:16 PM

W.HI.P murder, theft, rape, don't... 03-25-2009, 08:36 PM

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dar512 You are the crown of creation. 03-26-2009, 09:22 AM

Pico and ME We also cycle. If we get too... 03-25-2009, 08:29 PM

Shawnee123 No, I am the crown of... 03-26-2009, 09:23 AM

classicman My shit meter overfloweth. 03-26-2009, 05:10 PM

henry quirk "My shit meter overfloweth" ... 03-26-2009, 05:13 PM

abcde Henry, the views you espouse... 03-27-2009, 06:12 PM

henry quirk Henry, the views you espouse... 03-30-2009, 10:19 AM

TheMercenary Henry, you damm... 03-31-2009, 06:32 PM

henry quirk "Henry, you damm... 04-02-2009, 10:50 AM

W.HI.P yo wanna talk about freedom?... 04-08-2009, 12:05 PM

Undertoad It's always amazing, what... 04-08-2009, 12:11 PM

W.HI.P this song is actually good,... 04-08-2009, 12:19 PM

Undertoad That's some really remarkable... 04-08-2009, 12:31 PM

W.HI.P the iraq war, had nothing to... 04-08-2009, 12:37 PM

Undertoad so you agree with them... 04-08-2009, 12:50 PM

lookout123 I wonder how they had time to... 04-08-2009, 03:02 PM

henry quirk whip wrote: "aimee allen was... 04-09-2009, 09:54 AM

W.HI.P based on the fact that we are... 04-09-2009, 11:06 AM

lookout123 Take your medication WHIP,... 04-09-2009, 11:13 AM

W.HI.P medication? wtf are you on... 04-09-2009, 11:17 AM

lookout123 Leave witty comments to the... 04-09-2009, 11:18 AM

W.HI.P if i could go back in time,... 04-09-2009, 11:19 AM

Shawnee123 I would too. In fact, I would... 04-09-2009, 11:32 AM

W.HI.P that would be a free money... 04-09-2009, 11:47 AM

Shawnee123 Why am I slightly disturbed... 04-09-2009, 11:50 AM

henry quirk "we are the scum of the... 04-09-2009, 02:07 PM

W.HI.P who the fuck do you think i'm... 04-10-2009, 12:09 AM

henry quirk dearest whip: when you... 04-13-2009, 09:25 AM

jinx Don't worry, he means mall... 04-09-2009, 12:03 PM

W.HI.P jesus, thats funny 04-09-2009, 12:08 PM

Shawnee123 lol...I was thinking Paul... 04-09-2009, 12:19 PM

Queen of the Ryche http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... 04-09-2009, 01:55 PM

Queen of the Ryche Hey Monmaniacal Kettle? This... 04-09-2009, 03:56 PM

henry quirk Hey Monmaniacal Kettle? This... 04-09-2009, 04:02 PM

Flint henry, your posts are hard on... 04-09-2009, 04:07 PM

henry quirk i'll see what i can do... 04-09-2009, 04:16 PM

Flint I'm just sayin' is all... 04-09-2009, 04:17 PM

henry quirk no prob... 04-09-2009, 04:19 PM

Shawnee123 Uh oh, we got ourselves... 04-10-2009, 07:24 AM

Flint lol 04-10-2009, 08:41 AM

classicman lol - s123, you are in rare... 04-10-2009, 07:52 AM

Shawnee123 I aim to please. :blush: 04-10-2009, 07:54 AM

DanaC He wasn't speaking for all;... 04-13-2009, 10:49 AM

henry quirk *shrug* to each his (or... 04-13-2009, 02:00 PM

sugarpop yup. That is his opinion of... 04-19-2009, 03:18 PM

classicman I have to agree with Dana. I... 04-13-2009, 02:05 PM

henry quirk *sigh* 04-13-2009, 02:49 PM

classicman well I think it fair to... 04-13-2009, 03:06 PM

henry quirk there was no contradiction ... 04-13-2009, 03:22 PM

classicman Nor I you - have a nice day.... 04-13-2009, 03:36 PM

henry quirk Originally Posted by henry... 04-13-2009, 03:42 PM

classicman Care to try again? It is... 04-13-2009, 03:51 PM

classicman Therefore a great example of... 04-13-2009, 03:47 PM

henry quirk you wrote, 'since we all... 04-13-2009, 04:01 PM

DanaC If you want a private... 04-13-2009, 06:03 PM

W.HI.P wow, i can't believe i missed... 04-13-2009, 11:16 PM

henry quirk "If you want a private... 04-14-2009, 09:51 AM

W.HI.P henry, instead of pressing... 04-14-2009, 10:26 AM

henry quirk fine by me whip i note,... 04-14-2009, 10:39 AM

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DanaC Okay. Fair enough. 04-14-2009, 12:46 PM

Queen of the Ryche "what we each have is far... 04-14-2009, 10:53 AM

henry quirk "freedom of choice" i... 04-14-2009, 11:06 AM

classicman Hey Dana - wanna dance. ... 04-14-2009, 12:50 PM

DanaC Hey Dave....why you not in... 04-14-2009, 12:53 PM

henry quirk "we are fleas on this planet"... 04-20-2009, 09:28 AM

henry quirk "if joe is an enemy of mine... 04-20-2009, 09:43 AM

Queen of the Ryche Wow henry. Just wow. Are... 04-21-2009, 12:51 PM

Shawnee123 Fixed it for ya. Really,... 04-21-2009, 01:06 PM

classicman He's just talkin to his... 04-21-2009, 12:58 PM

Queen of the Ryche ...about eight feet... 04-21-2009, 01:03 PM

Queen of the Ryche :confused:Bandwagon jumping? ... 04-21-2009, 01:34 PM

henry quirk "Wow henry. Just wow. Are you... 04-21-2009, 01:54 PM

Queen of the Ryche nope, not dense. just bored... 04-21-2009, 02:23 PM

henry quirk "just bored with your... 04-21-2009, 02:28 PM

W.HI.P ummm, if you had been a good... 04-21-2009, 07:03 PM

Queen of the Ryche This is a PUBLIC thread -... 04-21-2009, 02:43 PM

henry quirk "the strongest OPINION I can... 04-21-2009, 03:30 PM

Queen of the Ryche Nope. Disagreeing with you... 04-21-2009, 04:15 PM

henry quirk you claim this: '(henry)... 04-21-2009, 04:30 PM

henry quirk "I have the FREEDOM to... 04-21-2009, 04:36 PM

xoxoxoBruce Wrong, in the Cellar you have... 04-22-2009, 12:05 PM

Queen of the Ryche when i say 'fleas' i mean in... 04-21-2009, 04:40 PM

DanaC @ Queenie: Whoah, whoah whoah... 04-21-2009, 05:46 PM

Aliantha All I have to say is, "OH MY... 04-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Urbane Guerrilla Well, offhand it looks like... 05-19-2009, 02:22 PM

DanaC Please tell me you made that... 05-19-2009, 06:55 PM

DanaC Look me up when you get there. 04-21-2009, 06:27 PM

Aliantha We can have a cellar.org... 04-21-2009, 06:32 PM

Shawnee123 I do hope you realize that I... 04-21-2009, 06:34 PM

Aliantha Yes well, as the first lady... 04-21-2009, 06:42 PM

Shawnee123 He is one demanding devil!... 04-21-2009, 06:43 PM

Queen of the Ryche Sorry Dana, not meant as an... 04-22-2009, 09:11 AM

DanaC *smiles* wasn't insulted. My... 04-22-2009, 12:54 PM

Queen of the Ryche Thank you Bruce. My opinion... 04-22-2009, 02:10 PM

xoxoxoBruce Bah, she's just a burned out... 04-23-2009, 02:56 AM

henry quirk "You will not change my... 04-23-2009, 10:26 AM

DanaC Fixed that for ya:) ... 04-23-2009, 03:56 PM

DanaC I elected to burn away all... 04-22-2009, 02:12 PM

Queen of the Ryche Feel free to call me dense,... 04-23-2009, 10:39 AM

henry quirk "I will continue to disagree"... 04-23-2009, 10:57 AM

Queen of the Ryche "I will continue to disagree"... 04-23-2009, 03:26 PM

henry quirk by the way: someone via a... 04-23-2009, 11:01 AM

Bullitt :moon: you missed a spot. 04-23-2009, 12:09 PM

Shawnee123 Jebus H Cripes, I can't read... 04-23-2009, 03:57 PM

Queen of the Ryche Sorry Shawnee. FTFY. (For... 04-23-2009, 04:19 PM

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02-23-2009, 10:10 AM	#11
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"there are different kinds of agency. Political (or historical) agency is not always open to everyone" yes: but i'm talking about a very specific, and real, thing when i refer to 'agency' that is: agency = the agent the capacity for self-deliberation, self-determination, choice is integral to the individual...in fact: that capacity is synonymous with the individual political/historical agency is another topic completely, one in keeping with that great, sometimes useful, fiction 'liberty/freedom'... __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

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